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Which off road car is more capable?

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#1 ·
Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon OR G-Class (G-wagen) ?
 
#8 ·
The Rubicon has better suspension articulation and comes with selectable lockers front and rear. It also has a lower geared transfer case and as ATL mentioned, better tires. If thats not enough for you, for a couple thousand dollars you can lift it 4" and easily clear 35" tires. They Rubicon is a very capable offroad rig, even with mild modifications.
 
#17 ·
Thanks...
4 ton Mecedes Unimog Diffs with selectable lockers,
Fuel Injected, Full Roller, Small Block Chevy 406ci on a small shot of nitrous.
54" Mickey Thompsons, double bead locked,
4 linked, 16" travel coil overs, etc,etc,etc
 
#18 ·
That machine is so... sick...
 
#33 · (Edited by Moderator)
I am a bit partial, this is my drive when I am not in the GTR (Rubicon Unlimited):



Great off-roading, comfortable, removable roof and doors are awesome, plenty of space (dog lives for the Jeep), 20K miles and not a single issue, and fuel economy isn't completely terrible 18~19MPG combined.

Plans for a winch, stubby bumpers, under-armor, SC kit, lift kit but the GTR has taken precedence in the mod department the last year!
 
#35 ·
The diff's in the Rubicon are solid up to 35" tires. If you go larger than 37's you may start breaking axle shafts under extreme use. The Rubicon and Wrangler are different. The older Jeeps had a Dana 30 in the front and a dana 35 in the rear. 33's have the ability to cause issues on these diffs. The Rubicon has dana 44's.

You'll find far more detailed information on a Jeep Forum. I'm a bit out of touch with the latest specs.
 
#40 ·
They're ok, but require a lot more money to make them as capable as a rubicon. If you look at what it would cost you to upgrade to Rubicon diffs (lockers, lower gears, stronger shafts etc). The difference is significant. The selectable lockers make a WORLD of difference. I'd rather 33's and full lockers than 37's and open diffs. Also the XJ requires a lot more lift to run an equivalent size tire. 35's are pretty huge on an XJ. They require a fair bit of lift due to wheel well opening size. Still capable, but not really any better than any other SUV.
 
#46 · (Edited by Moderator)
Go with the truck that has been conquering harsh environments around the world for decades! Toyota Land Cruiser. Not sure which models you can get over there, but a FZJ80, HZJ80, FZJ105 and HZJ105, all can be had with factory locking front, rear and center diffs, gas or diesel, they have close to true 1 ton axles, and their transmissions were used in a 30 passenger buses in Japan. You can fit 35" tires with only a 2-2.5" lift. I have had them from the 70's and there will always be one in my garage just encase.

Ryan
 
#48 ·
Go with the truck that has been conquering harsh environments around the world for decades! Toyota Land Cruiser. Not sure which models you can get over there, but a FZJ80, HZJ80, FZJ105 and HZJ105, all can be had with factory locking front, rear and center diffs, gas or diesel, they have close to true 1 ton axles, and their transmissions were used in a 30 passenger buses in Japan. You can fit 35" tires with only a 2-2.5" lift. I have had them from the 70's and there will always be one in my garage just encase.

Ryan
Do you refer to automatic or manual transmission?
 
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