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#1 Yancy Posted 10 February 2008 - 07:28 PM

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As many of you know, just purchasing and maintaining the GTR is going to cost some big dollars.  Get your wallets ready if you plan to upgrade this car.  Here is a link for the Amuse GTR exhaust....$5,175.00.  :o  I cannot leave a car alone once I get it, so I may wait for a year or so before making my decision to buy a GTR or not.  I want to get an idea of the costs on all other upgrades before I start a new project.  Just thought you'd all like to see that the exhaust can now be ordered.    

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#2 ShahulX Posted 10 February 2008 - 07:38 PM

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blah, US manufacterers in the united states will make exhaust just as good and be $2000 cheaper




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#3 ShahulX Posted 10 February 2008 - 07:41 PM

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good find though... Gains?




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#4 the King Posted 10 February 2008 - 08:56 PM

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 ShahulX, on Feb 10 2008, 07:38 PM, said:

blah, US manufacterers in the united states will make exhaust just as good and be $2000 cheaper
Tell me some good ones that make exhaust that are as light as or lighter than stock......


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#5 SiNzz Posted 10 February 2008 - 09:59 PM

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I want to know what sort of power that's putting out. Perhaps even more importantly, I want to know what the car sounds like without the pitiful sounding stock exhaust!



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They certainly look to be worth the 5k. But we will get alternatives that are cheaper, but Amuse is top quality stuff. They are justified in charging that much for the GT-R.



#7 Toykilla Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:50 PM

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First of all, Amuse is a very high end brand. Secondly, their exhaust is FULL TITANIUM. That shit is expensive in raw material form, much more so when turned into a work of art like Amuse has done.

That being said, I plan on buying the Amuse exhaust =P



#8 clokwork Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:54 PM

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Geez.. My car is staying stock.  F* that!!! lol


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#9 Neoseven Posted 10 February 2008 - 11:04 PM

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 dave, on Feb 10 2008, 09:45 PM, said:

They certainly look to be worth the 5k. But we will get alternatives that are cheaper, but Amuse is top quality stuff. They are justified in charging that much for the GT-R.


Sorry, but I have to ask.  Why are they justified?  They are asking with that price, approx $2,000 more that a 350Z exhaust in Ti.  Both are V6 engines, but require approx the same amount of material to make the product.  Both require approx the same amount of work to research and design the product.  I expected to see slight increases in prices from 350Z exhaust prices, but nothing on these levels.  I for one do not see it as justified.  But, soon enough, competition will do what it does and price will come down as all of the manufacturer's get their competing product to market.
If I remember correctly, wasn't Mines Ti cat back exhaust approx $1,500 cheaper than this?



#10 lunatictokyo Posted 10 February 2008 - 11:18 PM

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The most expensive exhaust Amuse current sells is the RS-Silent Gold Ring for the Z33, and it retails for roughly $3000.  The construction and design on that exhaust looks no different than the one for the R35.  Yet, the R35 exhaust will sell for $5175.  This is not too surprising considering Amuse knows exactly the demographics of their market.  The bottomline is that the  people who buy the GTR and modify it will have cash out of their backpockets, and majority of them will probably not want to buy a "cheapy exhaust" from M2-Hanbai (http://www.m2-hanbai.com/)  Powerhouse Amuse caters to a specific group of buyers, and they are pretty successful at doing that.   I gotta admit they are making a raping on each R35 exhaust that they sell, and they will probably sell quite a few of those.

Especially with all the type surrounding the R35, putting it on the same level as Porsches, Ferraris, etc.   I'm not too surprised to see prices going into Porsche territory.  However Amuse's price is probably edging on the higher end of the spectrum since they are charging for 'exclusivity' for their blue colored titanium tubing.  I think ARC's pricing will be similiar to Amuses, and maybe AP Boss too.  But the majority of the titanium exhaust from Trust, HKS, will probably fall along the line of Mine's pricing which is around $3500.

To the guy that says "someone will make it for $2000 less and it will be just as good".  You're absolutely right.  But look at it this way, Louis Vuitton bags cost upwards of $1500-$2000, but function wise, a girl can buy something from Walmart that does the exact same thing for $25.  Bottomline, some people have the money and will pay for that prestige.  By no means am I justifying Amuse's $5k pricetag considering I think it's a ripoff.   But with all the hype leading up the release, much of this was already doomed to happen.

For those that still want cheaper, then just wait for the copycat china made exhaust to start showing up.   Then there are always the regular nontitanium exhaust =)

For what I think is just as big of a rip, $250 for a paper air filter from Mine's.

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#11 Kris@GTRBlog Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:06 AM

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When mass production kicks in you will see economies of scale lower the prices. It takes time to create perfect jigs and get your Chinese production facilities up to speed.


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#12 ShahulX Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:18 AM

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 neoseven, on Feb 10 2008, 10:04 PM, said:

Sorry, but I have to ask.  Why are they justified?  They are asking with that price, approx $2,000 more that a 350Z exhaust in Ti.  Both are V6 engines, but require approx the same amount of material to make the product.  Both require approx the same amount of work to research and design the product.  I expected to see slight increases in prices from 350Z exhaust prices, but nothing on these levels.  I for one do not see it as justified.  But, soon enough, competition will do what it does and price will come down as all of the manufacturer's get their competing product to market.
If I remember correctly, wasn't Mines Ti cat back exhaust approx $1,500 cheaper than this?


100% agree with you here Neo

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#13 ShahulX Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:19 AM

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 neoseven, on Feb 10 2008, 10:04 PM, said:

Sorry, but I have to ask.  Why are they justified?  They are asking with that price, approx $2,000 more that a 350Z exhaust in Ti.  Both are V6 engines, but require approx the same amount of material to make the product.  Both require approx the same amount of work to research and design the product.  I expected to see slight increases in prices from 350Z exhaust prices, but nothing on these levels.  I for one do not see it as justified.  But, soon enough, competition will do what it does and price will come down as all of the manufacturer's get their competing product to market.
If I remember correctly, wasn't Mines Ti cat back exhaust approx $1,500 cheaper than this?


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#14 jmunjr Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:20 AM

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 sewid, on Feb 10 2008, 10:06 PM, said:

When mass production kicks in you will see economies of scale lower the prices. It takes time to create perfect jigs and get your Chinese production facilities up to speed.

Mass production for an exhaust kit for GT-R...that is made out of titanium?  I dunno, I'm not really feeling the economies of scale with this thing.  Maybe if it was for a Mustang...


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 neoseven, on Feb 10 2008, 10:04 PM, said:

Sorry, but I have to ask.  Why are they justified?  They are asking with that price, approx $2,000 more that a 350Z exhaust in Ti.  Both are V6 engines, but require approx the same amount of material to make the product.  Both require approx the same amount of work to research and design the product.  I expected to see slight increases in prices from 350Z exhaust prices, but nothing on these levels.  I for one do not see it as justified.  But, soon enough, competition will do what it does and price will come down as all of the manufacturer's get their competing product to market.
If I remember correctly, wasn't Mines Ti cat back exhaust approx $1,500 cheaper than this?

Justified because it just came out, its version I. After 2-3 years it will cost the same as the 350z one probably. Also, this is for the GT-R. They are only about 5 exhausts made for the GT-R as of right now. All of them are expensive, Amuse is more expensive because of the quality and time taken to make this. Everytime something new comes out of course it will be very expensive. Wait until it gets competitive and they need to drop their prices.



#16 ShahulX Posted 11 February 2008 - 01:07 AM

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^ evo tuners learned to buy US made parts, cheaper and just as good plus its so much nicer to be able to talk to tuners an have them on your board

We need to invite some US tuners here to get a presence like a vendor board for aftermaket




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#17 Neoseven Posted 11 February 2008 - 01:16 AM

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If this is where Japanese tuners are going, I will be buying US and Australian tuner parts.  It's not like you are getting better quality from Japan.  The best turbo manifold for my S15 was from a US company, not a Japanese company.  The best intake manifold & throttle body  for my S15 came from an Australian company, not a Japanese company.  I have no problem with the Japanese tuners, and love seeing what they are doing, but when they start markup up products, just because, I will buy elsewhere.



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I'll wait for APS to come out with something. :o



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The Amuse exhaust will definitely be going on my GTR.


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#20 Nyce Posted 11 February 2008 - 02:14 PM

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 clokwork, on Feb 10 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

Geez.. My car is staying stock. F* that!!! lol
I feel ya dawg.




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