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#1 yianni

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 08:17 PM

I'm seriously having the worst luck with fuel on my FBO. First 2 failed denso pumps, and now fuel basket problem.

 

 

Matt (soccerking) put in the fuel basket(485's) today, car worked great for the ride home no issues with it cutting out, just some surging at idle. 
 
I started going downtown, and the car started bogging out and had no boost. Long story short, the car broke down on the side of the highway, Matt drove over opened up the tank and found that the line going from the basket to the top had ripped, and no gas was going to the engine. Which is ironic because during the installation he stated how those lines always fail.
 
After he fixed it, I'm getting a P1220 code and the car is bogging out again. My pumps are hard wired using  Viscontis

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 08:54 PM

Did you check your fuses on the hardwire kit? You need to see if the pumps are getting power.
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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:01 PM

The barb that the hose slides over is serious. Might be something worth looking into for longevity. Perhaps filling it down a little so it doesn't eat into the hose as much as it does when the clamp is tightened. I'm sure the supplied lube as used.

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:20 PM

Your tuner needs to delete that code and two others with the hardwire install. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:22 PM

It's also important to make sure the hose is all the way on the barb and that the hose clamp is tightened above the end of the barb... if it's too low, you can over tighten the clamp and cut into the hose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:31 PM

I did not check those fuses, keep in mind the hardwire kit was already installed, only thing we did is add the new basket/pumps



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:38 PM

I know the hose was alll the way up, as well as the clamp. It was fine for a good 30min then it all went bad



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:53 PM

The hose was all the way up on the barb and properly tightened, I made sure to notnover tighten it. The car ran fine but obviously the line burst almost immediately which concerns me

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 11:59 PM

You need to check if the pump is getting power. If you have 12v at your power wire for pump you know it's a feed issue if not then obviously a power problem. Use a test light to check it, the code is normal when you hardwire your pumps.

It's possible your pump got hot and blew the fuse from pumping full tilt with hose broken.
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Posted 13 November 2016 - 04:11 AM

You need to check if the pump is getting power. If you have 12v at your power wire for pump you know it's a feed issue if not then obviously a power problem. Use a test light to check it, the code is normal when you hardwire your pumps.
It's possible your pump got hot and blew the fuse from pumping full tilt with hose broken.

if it's a blown fuse, would they even get power? Because the car runs, just not normal

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 12:15 PM

Gates submersible hoses will fail at the bend where it attaches at the hat. It will eventually tear at that bend, not just on the clamped area. This is why some of us switched to bulkhead fittings and a ptfe braided line.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 12:28 PM

Do you have a link to the bulkhead fittings and line please?



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Posted 13 November 2016 - 12:45 PM

Anyone know where the fuse is got the hardwire kit? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 03:15 PM

Anyone know where the fuse is got the hardwire kit?

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In the engine bay battery compartment portion of the hardwire


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 03:25 PM

In the engine bay battery compartment portion of the hardwire


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Hmm, my neighbor looked under there and he didn't see anything. Just the cable on the battery going into the car

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 04:32 PM

I just don't understand how someone could have enough time to make a new thread about a problem they are having with a particular product but not take a moment to email the person who makes the product to let them know. I've seen this line tear twice. And it was due to an improper installation. During the majority of my year long testing with a few of these units I was actually using R9 line which is not rated to be submerged in fuel but I never had a problem with a single one. And again this isn't like 2 weeks worth of testing, this is a year plus worth of testing. If someone knows of a better fuel line that is cost effective I am all ears but at this point in time nothing that I have seen leads me to believe the lines I am providing with my kit will not get the job done. And just to give you an idea I've sold just over 100 of these units. If these lines were a very big issue I think we would know about it by now.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:27 PM

If the main line/hose was ripped or pushed off the barb how could the engine get fuel to even idle? Seriously doubt the main hose is the problem, but I could be wrong. With that said what exactly is a bog? Is it cutting out on a safety, or spitting under high rpm? A log would be extremely helpful. The second pump could not be coming on? Either way we gave you a very good direction for diagnosing the problem.
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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:36 PM

I don't believe it was improper installation,  everything seemed right to me. When the hose was ripped, my car had stalled out and wouldn't move. It turned on at first but after trying to move to a safer spot on the highway with the police escorting me, it ended up completely dieing until Matt fixed the line. The issue I'm having now is different, I could just need a tune. I sent my logs to David. I'll prolly hear back from him tomorrow. 

 

Benjamin, it almost feels like the car is in limp mode now. The attached log is on an onramp.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:46 PM

I don't believe it was improper installation,  everything seemed right to me. When the hose was ripped, my car had stalled out and wouldn't move. It turned on at first but after trying to move to a safer spot on the highway with the police escorting me, it ended up completely dieing until Matt fixed the line. The issue I'm having now is different, I could just need a tune. I sent my logs to David. I'll prolly hear back from him tomorrow. 
 
Benjamin, it almost feels like the car is in limp mode now. The attached log is on an onramp.


Over 100 sold, less than 3 known lines to have a issue. Don't see how that's not a installation issue, looking right doesn't mean it's right.

If your having tuning or wiring problems then you should change the name of the thread or make a new thread because it doesn't have anything to do with my basket.

Hope you sort everything out

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 06:15 PM

In all honesty, it all started after the basket installation.I guess I could of named it something else. But the main issue was the line, now it could be something else. I'm not a fuel genius, nor do i know the ins and outs of the engine. I just want my car back to normal. Hopefully you can understand the frustration. 




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