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#1 m00m00w4t3r

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:57 PM

Hey everyone! I bought a CBA GTR last week and im going to do a full fluid change next week. Could you guys double check to see if i have all the right washers and fluids?

Also any tips/tricks would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks!

 

Trans: Pentosin FFL-4 (8L)
F&R Diff: Motul Gear FF 75W140 (2L) [F: 0.65L R: 1.35L] 
Engine: Motul 300V Trophy 0w40 (6L) [Only fill up to 5.50L]

 

TQ Specs 
Front Diff Fill/Drain: 26 ft/lb
Rear Diff Fill: 25 ft/lb
Rear Diff Drain: 39.5 ft/lb

 

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#2 Kayzee

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 06:22 PM

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#3 monsta121

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 01:38 PM

Everything looks good. Those are the same fluids I used for mine last week except I used the OEM transmission fluid. Are you planning on dropping the transmission pan to clean out the magnets? If so, then you may want a total of 10l of fluid instead of 8.

Tips:
Remove the fill plugs before the drain plugs.

Since you're doing an oil change remove the oil filter first as it will make it easier to remove the front diff fill plug and refill

Edited by monsta121, 08 January 2017 - 01:44 PM.


#4 m00m00w4t3r

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 05:11 PM

Everything looks good. Those are the same fluids I used for mine last week except I used the OEM transmission fluid. Are you planning on dropping the transmission pan to clean out the magnets? If so, then you may want a total of 10l of fluid instead of 8.

Tips:
Remove the fill plugs before the drain plugs.

Since you're doing an oil change remove the oil filter first as it will make it easier to remove the front diff fill plug and refill

 

Did you use up all 8 bottles of trans fluid? 

 

Im just doing a drain > refill > cycle gears > drain > refill. Should be around 4qts per fill right?

 

Was you diff fluids ~0.65 and ~1.35?

 

How often would you recommend to drop the pan to clean the magnets?

 

I might do that next change since the car is already on jack stands and I have the next couple days off. 

 

Thanks for the tips :)


Edited by m00m00w4t3r, 08 January 2017 - 05:16 PM.


#5 Mr2_nut

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:37 PM

The transmission should take pretty close to 10 quarts per fill. When I did mine I dropped the pan and replaced both filters. Even with all that I was only able to get about 9 1/2 quarts into it. If you want to flush the system do as the service manual says and use ATF fluid for flushing. Even the cheapest DCT fluid is way to expensive to flush with.

Edited by Mr2_nut, 09 January 2017 - 03:48 PM.


#6 monsta121

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 04:29 PM

-Used up pretty much all 10 quarts of fluid. Granted all 10 didnt actually end up in the transmission as some was still left in the transfer pump etc.

 

-I didnt measure out the fluids. I filled the front diff until it started to drip out from the fill plug hole. Thant took about 3/4 of the bottle. I did the same process for the rear diff and that took a little over 1.5 quarts before it started to drip out.

 

For the transmission I did the following:

Drain --> Remove pan and clean --> Reinstall Pan -> Fill with fluid until fluid starts to drip from the fill tube -> Close drain/fill plugs -> start car and cycle through the gears. Turn car off --> open drain plug  and fill plug, add fluid until it starts to drip at a rate of 1 drop/sec -> Close drain/fill plug --> Start car and let the trans fluid get to operating temp and cycle through gears --> turn car off and wait 10 minutes -> Remove drain plug and add fluid (if necessary) until it drips out at a rate of 1 drop/sec. --> Reinstall plugs.

 

I would say remove and clean the pan and magnets if they have never been cleaned before. Probably would do it every other transmission fluid change after that.

 

10 quarts wont be enough for you to drain and fill twice. As Mr2_nut mentioned, if you want to do a flush of the transmission then use cheap ATF and do the final fill with the Pentosin


Edited by monsta121, 09 January 2017 - 04:34 PM.


#7 m00m00w4t3r

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 02:48 PM

Thanks for the answers!

 

Would "CASTROL TRANSMAX DEX/MERC" or "Valvoline Max Life DEX/MERC" ATF be fine to do the flush?

 

I just want to make sure w/e is left behind from the flush would not conflict with the pentosin.

 

Im going to drop the pan and clean the magnets on my next change.


Edited by m00m00w4t3r, 10 January 2017 - 03:02 PM.


#8 monsta121

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:37 AM

Any ATF Dexron III or VI is fine to flush with, no need for anything expensive. Just make sure you dont let the clutch packs engage while the transmission is filled with ATF (never release the brake pedal while the car is on and transmission is in M, A, or R).

Edited by monsta121, 12 January 2017 - 12:08 AM.


#9 m00m00w4t3r

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:57 PM

Any ATF Dexron III or VI is fine to flush with, no need for anything expensive. Just make sure you dont let the clutch packs enage while the transmission is filled with ATF (never release the brake pedal while is on and in M, A, or R).

 

Wow good thing you mentioned that lol i wouldve forgot about that.



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Posted 17 January 2017 - 10:30 AM

How did it go?

#11 m00m00w4t3r

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:06 AM

Everything went well. Changing out and flushing the trans fluid took the most time and the boring pumping over and over again. Putting the under panels back together was also time consuming lol

 

Good thing i got 3 bottles of diff fluid because some people stated that i only needed 2 (F: 0.65L R: 1.35L)...I ended up using about 2.3L (Filled all the way until it was dripping out F: 0.80L R: 1.50L)

 

Also, I didnt except the Motul Gear FF to be blue. 

 

 

Rear diff drain plug

 

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Rear diff drained

 

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Front diff drain plug...Thats alot of metal shavings...looks like anti-seize lol

 

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Front diff drained amount

 

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Only used up 6.5L of Pentosin for the trans before it started leaking from the tube. (Flushed with ATF before that and it was also 6.5L) 

 

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Edited by m00m00w4t3r, 18 January 2017 - 02:22 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:59 AM

You did the fill procedure after you put the 6.5 liters in where you start the car and cycle through the gears right? because you really should have gotten more than 6.5l into the transmission

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:31 AM

Ya I cycled through 1st and 2nd gear. When i pulled out the plug it excess fluid came out then it was dripping 1 drop per second. After the flush i got the trans oil temp up and cycled through the gears again and double checked the drain. It was same results.

 

How much did you get in there?


Edited by m00m00w4t3r, 19 January 2017 - 03:31 AM.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 10:25 AM

I was able to get about 9 1/2 or 9 1/4 quarts into the transmission but I also dropped the pan. When I was going through the fill procedures every time I did the gear shift part I was finding I was a little low on fluid afterwards so after crawling under the car 3 times I finally got fed up and shoved all 10 quarts into the transmission. I did the gear select steps another 10 times then brought the transmission up to temperature and drained the fluid back down to normal level.


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