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#1 kinghansen

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 09:43 AM

Im looking at replacing rotors and Im between the DBA T3 500 slotted rotors & the AP Racing J hook rotors.

 

Obviously the DBA are quite the cheaper option which makes them enticing but I was looking to get peoples real life experience with both these rotors.

 

How are they for performance, brake squealing, brake dust, everything?

 

I dont plan to track the car, just streets with a bit of spirited driving. 

 

Also, is it an ok idea to run the OEM pads until they wear out or should I immediately go to endless mx-72? 

 

 


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 11:09 AM

My preferred setup is Alcon discs with Endless MX72 pads. 

 

If you don't plan to do any tracking, and you keep spirited driving to a minimum, then DBA w/ Hawk HPS pads should be doable. Some love them. Just depends on how aggressively you drive. 

 

There's been feedback that the MX72 pads don't mesh well with the DBA rotors. Lots of noise. So I wouldn't do that combo. 

 

I can assist with either combo. If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to shoot me a PM. 

 

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 01:02 PM

My preferred setup is Alcon discs with Endless MX72 pads. 

 

If you don't plan to do any tracking, and you keep spirited driving to a minimum, then DBA w/ Hawk HPS pads should be doable. Some love them. Just depends on how aggressively you drive. 

 

There's been feedback that the MX72 pads don't mesh well with the DBA rotors. Lots of noise. So I wouldn't do that combo. 

 

I can assist with either combo. If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to shoot me a PM. 

 

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Thanks James!

 

For the DBA with Hawk HPS set up, how is brake noise and brake dust? Also, is braking performance good and will you damage the rotors with too much hard braking?

 

Im thinking J Hooks with MX72 may be a possibility. Do you have any experience/feedback with this combo? 


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 05:39 PM

In my opinion, there's no reason to go to J Hooks given what you've said thus far. They will be more expensive than Alcon by quite a bit as the fronts will require new hats and even the basic rears are more costly. 

 

Hawk HPS is a low dust and low noise brake pad. They just aren't as fade resistant as the MX72 when they get hot. 

 

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 09:58 AM

The DBA slotted rotors with hats are great. I have them on my 2009 GTR and they never let me down at the track. I was running with Carbotech XP12 and XP10 pads (which are way too much for the street) but I imagine Carbotech has some great street pads also.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:13 AM

I'm purchasing new rotors in the next week or two, and I'm on the fence about DBA vs AP slotted.  I run Hawk HPS for street, and probably will get separate Carbotech XP10's when I go back to the track (or 12's up front, 10's in rear). 

 

Any input?



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 12:39 PM

RacingBrake has the best value in terms of performance and durability replacement rotor rings (either for street driving or tracking) for your GTR:

 

For 2009-2011 (380/380mm)

http://www.racingbra.../gtr-irk-01.htm

 

For 2012+ (390/380mm)

Track duty (390x34/380x30mm)

http://www.racingbra.../gtr-irk-01.htm

 

Standard duty (390x32/380x30mm) - Very popular for non-track people

http://www.racingbra.../gtr-irk-09.htm

 

XT910 is a low dust (& low cost), and no squeaking compound for spirited/street performance driving with hundreds of happy GTR drivers.

 

Everything is in stock for prompt shipment.

 



#8 jaspergtr

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 05:12 PM

I am interested in RB.  Could you point me to the installation?  My car is about to get some work done, and I may switching both front and rear rotors...  I see your link is for rings only.  Is there a hardware kit to reuse the OE hats?  Please expand on this process. 



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 06:59 PM

MX-72 are also very hard on stock rotors but they do stop really well without fade. There is less noise than stock.

I still have stock rotors and do run MX-72 pads .

Alcon would be my track choice if I went regularly.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:00 PM

James,

What about agency power rotors you promoted 2 weeks ago. They looked really nice and were upsized.............


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:54 PM

I am interested in RB.  Could you point me to the installation?  My car is about to get some work done, and I may switching both front and rear rotors...  I see your link is for rings only.  Is there a hardware kit to reuse the OE hats?  Please expand on this process. 

All the replacement rotor rings are shipped with our brand new hardware. Hardware kit is available for separate purchase for third party's discs assembly.



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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:53 PM

All the replacement rotor rings are shipped with our brand new hardware. Hardware kit is available for separate purchase for third party's discs assembly.

Cool. 

 

Thanks! 



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Posted 08 May 2017 - 06:43 AM

Very nicely organized set up too.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:48 AM

So if we go back to the main title.  DBA 5000 or AP Racing...  

 

The cost for these are almost identical (if using the slotted AP Racing rotors).  The rotors that have lasted me the longest have been the AP Racing slotted (~$700 fronts):

 

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DBA 5000 Also about $700 (for the fronts), but appear to come with hats...  


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#15 Aequitas & Veritas

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:57 PM

The DBAs by vendors are quoted at $1149 for full front/rear set, it's the route I'm going soon



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 02:17 PM

The DBAs by vendors are quoted at $1149 for full front/rear set, it's the route I'm going soon

Which vendor?  And are they rings only?  Does that include hardware kit for the hats?  



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 03:22 PM

Tim, and I believe rings only which is the main concern no issues reusing stock rings



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:23 AM

Yeah, I've reused rings in the past - having another set of hats could be helpful in reducing the changeover time.  But that cost is mighty low....  Checking into that.  



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:03 AM

The cost for front and rear axels is super low.  I would absolutely not consider spirited/track type exercises though.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:43 AM

Ugh.  Back to AP Racing...  They lasted me several weekends for the fronts (I think 12 events before I swapped them out).




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