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#1 Vapiano Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:46 PM

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Thinking about adding 3" intakes to my current set up (e-tune, drop in filters, midpipe and 2012 turbo inlets), what should I expect? More HP/Torque? Faster spool/acceleration? Is the return on the investment worth it?  Thanks.


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#2 Visconti Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:49 PM

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Faster spool/acceleration? Yes

Is the return on the investment worth it? Thanks. Yes

Stock Filters / Intakes are a slight restriction.

I had a car pickup 30lb of tq by removing the stock filters on the dyno today

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#3 Vapiano Posted 19 May 2012 - 11:55 PM

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Thanks John, what is the average TQ on a 2009-2011 with the mods that I have? Are they pushing the limits of the rods at this point?


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#4 Visconti Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:06 AM

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View PostVapiano, on 19 May 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Thanks John, what is the average TQ on a 2009-2011 with the mods that I have? Are they pushing the limits of the rods at this point?

550tq (dynojet)

No your not pushing the limits.

E85 generates a lot of torque and that pushes the limits.

Have you thought about downpipes and injectors?

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#5 Dave@GotboostPerformance Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:07 AM

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Hi Louis,

Here are a couple links of customers that posted dyno graph gains after the installation of Gotboost Performance 3" intakes.

http://www.nagtroc.o...e/page__st__100   Post # 103

http://www.nagtroc.o...e/page__st__120    Post # 131


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#6 Vapiano Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:10 AM

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Thanks Dave! These have been on my short list since day one. I thought I read a post where 550tq was actually bending rods.

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#7 Visconti Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:12 AM

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View PostVapiano, on 20 May 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Thanks Dave! These have been on my short list since day one.

Dave makes a great intake.

We always have them in stock and ready to ship if need be ;)

-John



#8 Vapiano Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:17 AM

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What are the TQ limits of the stock rods? I don't think I want to go with DPs and injectors just yet, maybe sometime down the road.

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#9 Visconti Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:19 AM

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600tq on a mustang dyno, 650tq on a dynojet..

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#10 Bill@SprayItRacing Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:31 AM

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+1 on Daves Intakes. They are the nicest ones on the market, at a VERY reasonable price.  

I have some enroute to keep on the shelf as well.  Its a great mod to go with injectors and a custom tune :thumbsup:


Agree with John about the TQ of the stock rods.  Keep the RPMS at 7000 and a smooth torque curve under those limits and you are AOK.



#11 Vapiano Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:57 AM

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At what point should one consider ID1000cc injectors?


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#12 Bill@SprayItRacing Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:12 AM

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View PostVapiano, on 20 May 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

At what point should one consider ID1000cc injectors?

I would upgrade when you get a Retune.  I would get ID1000cc or my 1000cc.

Look at your injector duty cycle, I would imagine its over 95%, Its more of a safety margin, if your fuel demands go up (Cold weather and or a top end run), you will not have enough fuel.  Even on a Midpipe and custom tune car like yours.



#13 Knockturnal_Knight Posted 20 May 2012 - 06:28 AM

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If one were to add  full exhaust, 3" intakes and injectors, what would be the the point of adding 2012 inlets? Don't they (not including the inlet pipes) max out the stock turbos already? I'm currently considering all what I've mentioned, I'm just not sure if 2012 inlet pipes are what I need or want (especially since they require one hell of an installation) either now or when if I wish to upgrade turbos and go another huge step.

Can someone please elaborate on how the 2012 inlet pipes would make sense in this case?


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#14 CornedOutVR38 Posted 20 May 2012 - 07:17 AM

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The 2009-2011 (CBA) inlets are a slightly bigger restriction than the stock turbos. Therefore, the DBA inlets are worth about 10-15whp. A few members have posted back to back dynos.


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#15 FrankyGTR Posted 20 May 2012 - 07:34 AM

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its going to sound AWESOME its worth it just for that alone IMO do it!!!!\

Question:Can i had the 2012 inlet pipes to my setup on the stock tune?or do i need to tune for that???Thanks

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#16 CornedOutVR38 Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:22 AM

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My data logs looked the same after installing the inlets so it didn't require any new tuning. I know Bill and a few others on here also installed the inlets without additional tuning for them.


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#17 Vapiano Posted 20 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

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View PostCornedOutVR38, on 20 May 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

My data logs looked the same after installing the inlets so it didn't require any new tuning. I know Bill and a few others on here also installed the inlets without additional tuning for them.

+1 no tune needed for just adding the inlets only.


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So what I am getting from this is if you have upgraded, mid pipe, 3" intake, 12 inlets, and a cobb or ecu tec; id 1000 injectors aren't needed but would be a good idea to get better fuel numbers for more demand.   ??

As a new owner to a car that can be "moded" I am not familiar to any of this.

If you do reply might I also ask for a link or info on the id 1000cc, price, where to buy. Or if that is even the right part ?
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View Post949gtr, on 03 June 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

So what I am getting from this is if you have upgraded, mid pipe, 3" intake, 12 inlets, and a cobb or ecu tec; id 1000 injectors aren't needed but would be a good idea to get better fuel numbers for more demand.   ??

As a new owner to a car that can be "moded" I am not familiar to any of this.

If you do reply might I also ask for a link or info on the id 1000cc, price, where to buy. Or if that is even the right part ?
Thanks, i'm used to just gas and go. ;)

If you're running OTS tunes, stock injectors should be fine.  But if you get a custom tune, definitely upgrade injectors.  There are a few brands out there, here's a link for ID http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/




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