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#21 Arsinek Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:38 PM

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Grille looks more r34-ish, I like it. Now if only theyd incorporate the r34 headlights, we'd be in buisness. I cant stand the R35 headlights.



#22 suka jones Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:37 PM

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There is a whole lot more juice to squeeze out of the R35 turnip, IMHO. But they do have to keep squeezing if they want to keep the excitement level up. Also if they want to keep ramping the price, as we know they do. More tweaks for 2014 and an EBA for MY15 wouldnt surprise me.


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#23 elpasogtr Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:34 AM

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I'd imagine they put a new set of turbos on her and up the HP to over 600


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#24 the King Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:19 PM

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MONTH I know them and the Mercs are working together but AFAIK its not any HIGH performance car ie GT-R.


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#25 the King Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:21 PM

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Stupid smartphones.. I directed comment at M.O not Month. Lol


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#26 MindlessOath Posted 16 June 2012 - 12:19 AM

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i understood ;) and as of right now they are not publicly working on any high end products yet. there are just talks going on. this is either a rumor or a leak of talks before they state what may or may not happen.



#27 max_R35 Posted 16 June 2012 - 02:51 AM

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Simplest thing to do is install the Spec V turbos and turn up the boost a little

I believe they will wait for the 991 turbo to be released and ten they will introduce a major update


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View PostAMS, on May 18 2010, 04:52 PM, said:

We rarely are the first to market on the product but in our eyes we always produce the best product when we do finally release it :)

#28 Santorican Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:25 AM

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View PostVEX_SB, on 14 June 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

Why the hell they want help from inferior company (regarding performance )  ? They need no help for GTR chasis or engine ...

For some infinity 4door sedan yes, but only regarding more luxury interior and quality ride  , and nothing more.

Because Mercedes has been in F1 for a while now where Nissan has not. Mercedes designs some of the most complex ICE engines in the world.


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#29 cweil Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:44 AM

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View PostSantorican, on 16 June 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

Because Mercedes has been in F1 for a while now where Nissan has not. Mercedes designs some of the most complex ICE engines in the world.

Yeah, but Renault has been there longer than Mercedes, with even more success than Mercedes. So Nissan has plenty of access to the same quality of engineering staff. Besides, most F1-specific engine tech is not really useful for road car applications.



#30 aristo25 Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:00 AM

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They could bring out the SpecV w/ maybe a Nismo tuned block? if they push for 600hp then it's a posibility.


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#31 max_R35 Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:28 AM

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They should use stronger rods, a slightly larger exhaust and Spec V turbos


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Cobb AP-NIS-006, Custom Dyno Tune: Ben @ GTC, GTC 4" Ti Exhaust, GTC Turbo Inlet Pipe, GTC 80mm Intake, AMS catless DP, AMS Intercooler, Injector Dynamics 1000cc Injectors, HKS spark plugs, HKS Actuators, Cobb Silicon Hoses, Cobb XLE BPV, GBP SD Kit B, SIR 265LPH pumps, Castrol Engine Oil, Dodson Transmission and Diff Fluid, Willall Transmission Cooler + Sump, Willall Engine Sump, Willall Diff Coolers, AAM Engine Oil Cooler, CBRD Radiator, Carbing Coolant Overflow Tank, Samco Radiator Hoses, Dodson 60C Thermostat, Dodson Sportsman Kit + Extras, Michelin PSS 295/35/20 Square

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View PostAMS, on May 18 2010, 04:52 PM, said:

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#32 Santorican Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:29 AM

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View Postcweil, on 16 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Yeah, but Renault has been there longer than Mercedes, with even more success than Mercedes. So Nissan has plenty of access to the same quality of engineering staff. Besides, most F1-specific engine tech is not really useful for road car applications.

Active aero, active suspensions, launch control, traction control, telemetry are some F1 innovations that made it to production cars.


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#33 livingit Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:32 AM

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Ceramic brakes should be an option



#34 Alpha Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:38 AM

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Interesting stuff but just all speculation :/


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#35 the King Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:27 AM

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KERs system, DRS I think these innovations will become a part of high performance cars first before it becomes mainstream. I just think that Nissan will watch for what the 991 Turbo will bring to the market before they bring an all new GT-R.


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#36 aristo25 Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:11 PM

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I may just get the updated GTR.


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#37 suka jones Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:48 PM

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For certain we can expect more vSpec tech to trickle down, also from the endurance racer.
Ti con rods would be a good addition once the power gets higher. None of it for free.
I fully agree that tha pace of change will in part be influenced by developments from Porsche. We all knew it would be a war. And it is.


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#38 cweil Posted 17 June 2012 - 04:54 AM

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View PostSantorican, on 16 June 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Active aero, active suspensions, launch control, traction control, telemetry are some F1 innovations that made it to production cars.

I worked in F1 for a few years in Italy- saying that F1 tech makes it into road cars is like saying NASA technology has had it into small aircraft. For journalists and PR-speak, sure, those things have, but in reality, it's not all that applicable. There have been little bits here and there, but the real high tech stuff does not make it into road cars.

Road cars don't use active aero or suspensions in the same manner F1 did back in the early 90s, they dont use the same control systems for launch or traction (particularly for the more recent traction control methods) because road cars don't have the same level of electronic control over the engine and diff, and most telemetry used existed way before F1. It's good PR speak, but the thing F1 really provides is engineer training and methodology, but otherwise it's mostly an entirely different world.

I think the closest thing that's been applicable- or at least will be- is the hybrid battery and flywheel technology developed in the last few years. Porsche has already implemented the Williams flywheel-based hybrid system.

You could make some arguments for other tech, like material science tech in fluids, composite design, ICE design, etc, but most F1-specific breakthroughs relate to the extreme nature of the application which has less to do with roadcar design.

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#39 Monaco Posted 17 June 2012 - 05:47 AM

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Power bumps are nice, but in my opinion I'll rather have excellent build quality and upscale refinement over it.



#40 Santorican Posted 17 June 2012 - 07:31 AM

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View Postcweil, on 17 June 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

I worked in F1 for a few years in Italy- saying that F1 tech makes it into road cars is like saying NASA technology has had it into small aircraft. For journalists and PR-speak, sure, those things have, but in reality, it's not all that applicable. There have been little bits here and there, but the real high tech stuff does not make it into road cars.

Road cars don't use active aero or suspensions in the same manner F1 did back in the early 90s, they dont use the same control systems for launch or traction (particularly for the more recent traction control methods) because road cars don't have the same level of electronic control over the engine and diff, and most telemetry used existed way before F1. It's good PR speak, but the thing F1 really provides is engineer training and methodology, but otherwise it's mostly an entirely different world.

I think the closest thing that's been applicable- or at least will be- is the hybrid battery and flywheel technology developed in the last few years. Porsche has already implemented the Williams flywheel-based hybrid system.

You could make some arguments for other tech, like material science tech in fluids, composite design, ICE design, etc, but most F1-specific breakthroughs relate to the extreme nature of the application which has less to do with roadcar design.

That's a bad analogy because tons of NASA tech has trickled down into every consumer market. Of course you won't see blown diffusers, the same control systems, or the same structural applications, but you will see top level ideas transferred.


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