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#1 MC Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:03 AM

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This week Motor Trend is  conducting its  annual  Best Drivers Car  comparison and the  GT-R is once again among the 9 contenders for the title. Previously the GT-R has placed 2nd.  Below is  the  Hot lap  around leguna  seca portion  of the  week long event.  Watch below to see how the 2012 Black Edition performs compared to the1:36.4 of last years  2012 Premium test car.  The full results will be announced later this week along with the  GT-R competing  head to head against the Aventador  Mclaren GT500 aswell as the rest of the  contender  field in a drag race

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#2 rio_gtr Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

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drag predictions:
1 lambo
2 MP412C
3 GTR
4 mustang
5 porche
.......


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#3 Goonthree Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:31 AM

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Drag prediction is Lambo, GTR, Mclaren

Edited by Goonthree, 21 August 2012 - 10:32 AM.




#4 TheHitman™ Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:56 AM

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View PostGoonthree, on 21 August 2012 - 10:31 AM, said:

Drag prediction is Lambo, GTR, Mclaren

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#5 Sakred Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:01 PM

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View PostVonHammer, on 21 August 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

Anyone else think that times bs?

I think I remember seeing Randy post a time of 1.33 in a Camero Zl1. I have to think the GTR is faster than a ZL1 around LS. Also what GTR is he driving my stock 2012 BE loved to throttle over steer.

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#6 the King Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:11 PM

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Was expecting a bit more but still faster by the increments of modification, so I guess its ok


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#7 the King Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:15 PM

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View PostSakred, on 21 August 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

I think I remember seeing Randy post a time of 1.33 in a Camero Zl1. I have to think the GTR is faster than a ZL1 around LS. Also what GTR is he driving my stock 2012 BE loved to throttle over steer.

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I am sure the Camaro ZL1 did a 1:39.xx not 1:33. That would be faster than even the Aventedor and the Camaro is a fairly crappy track car COMPARED to these two....


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#8 MC Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:32 PM

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View PostVonHammer, on 21 August 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Well this just proves that either the GTR is not getting any better and now in the BE, is a complete rip off!
More bhp more torque suspension changes CF rear wing and no performance increase?
Nissan now either have to achieve something special next year or I think it's going to fall behind badly...

based on last year this is about what i expected..   maybe 1:36 flat

the  BE was never claimed to have more performance compared to the regular car... i think the wheels are about  4lbs lighter total and that carbon upper wing is probably no more than 2 lbs less as the OEM  weighs nothing really

im not sure what type of improvement was expected ...the  hp increase  is about  6-7 at the wheels but  with that said it does have a  different curve where it comes on  under and around 4K a bit more.. that is the the  most important change for  something like this  hot  lap as even though nuanced the power might be  a little more accessible out of a turn...  the suspension has mildy tweaked spring rates that no ones really knows what they are and that i havent seen it show up as a difference in any real world test one way or the other


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#9 icarus Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:39 PM

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You can't really compare too closely to last year's times.  It was a different day so track conditions could easily be different.  And, even a pro driver will have a few tenths variance from lap to lap even on the same day.  Also, the differences between 2012 and 2013 model years are not that much.


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View Postthe King, on 21 August 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

I am sure the Camaro ZL1 did a 1:39.xx not 1:33. That would be faster than even the Aventedor and the Camaro is a fairly crappy track car COMPARED to these two....

You are correct. I take that back. I was thinking of a privately owned GT3 RS time I saw recently.

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I'd like to see someone else drive the car. That seemed like some really conservative driving for laguna seca. I've watched bike races and car races at seca and you have to really push your vehicles on that track and earn your lap times, especially with all of the elevation changes. He would cringe halfway through turns and get nervous / complain about "there's that push again" which makes me curious to know what he had the trans/suspension/tc all set to. I can only hope he had it set to off or at the very least R. I call shenanigans.


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View Postrio_gtr, on 21 August 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

drag predictions:
1 lambo
2 MP412C
3 GTR
4 mustang
5 porche
.......

my first 5 were perfect... Nice prediction on my part......


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#13 MC Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:21 AM

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only one that surprised me  was the  991 edged the  ZL1


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#14 rio_gtr Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:35 AM

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View PostMC, on 24 August 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

only one that surprised me  was the  991 edged the  ZL1

agreed....


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#15 FrankyGTR Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:56 AM

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View Postrio_gtr, on 21 August 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

drag predictions:
1 lambo
2 MP412C
3 GTR
4 mustang
5 porche
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you where correct


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#16 NNN_Surfer Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:19 PM

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Looks like MotorTrend picked:
1. 911 Carrera S  1:39.3
2. Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 1:38.9
3. GTR  1:36.3




Should have been the reverse.



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View Postrio_gtr, on 24 August 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

my first 5 were perfect... Nice prediction on my part......

You nailed it but it wasn't that hard. This drag race wasnt even timed. It was just a shootout for fun to see where the cars would turn out next to each other.Times posted are all old times from previous  tests. It's not fair as every car was tested on different day


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#19 Zeruel_82 Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:08 AM

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What surprised me was how fast the McLaren mp4-12c was. I was expecting the Aventador to just fly ahead and win easy, followed by by the McLaren just ahead of the GT-R.
How can The McLaren be so damn fast with 100 hp less than the Aventador and rear wheel drive?



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It's turbos, will give more " under the curve "




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