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#61 Supraboy1 Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:31 PM

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View PostGTRG2, on 05 May 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Supra let me ask you - if you had to pick one for use in CANADA - in your opinion which would be the best route to go in regards of detector and laser jammers as a combo

To be 100% fair good sir, I would call John Turner, from the link provided.  Tell him where you live, and take his advice.  I just don't live in Canada nor drive there so my specific advice wold not be accurate.



#62 GTRG2 Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:34 PM

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View PostYellokilo, on 05 May 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Please keep us up-to-date after your decision.
I, too, live in Ontario and after getting 2 speeding tickets, received a letter in the mail warning me that I will have to go to traffic court and justify being able to keep my license if I get another ticket.
Both speeding tickets were due to lack of attention.
70 in a 50 zone
133 in a 100 zone.

Will do ... Yikes while those tickets do suck - my main goal for the radar is to prevent myself from getting a 50 over ticket which comes with a nice big fat fine up to 10k and a big license suspension and roadside vehicle impound ... in which case as immature as this may sound I can not afford to let some douche tow my GTR and have it for a week in a yard operated by little punk kids who will find every excuse to take it for a joy ride (this happens believe me I have seen it) - in which case I would rather get in a high speed chase ... HOWEVER the whole goal is to prevent that lol so I will definitely keep you and the community informed ..

View PostCR-8-10_GTR, on 05 May 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Well, so far we have 9 folks who use and live by the V1, 2 for the 9500ci, 2 for the 9500ix, 1 for the Beltronics STiR and two that think radar detectors are a waste of time...
I think this thread needs to be a vote if you want to know the collective opinion...

You are right - Once I figure out all the options besides the ones above I will ask the MODS to turn this into a POLL ... thank you


View Postdoctorspeed1, on 05 May 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

I think this is something to consider although I don't know how much truth there is to the newer products.  I have a difficult time going with endorsed products when there is a conflict of interest.  I'd love to hear someone's input that is more knowledgeable.  



I will definitely consider the above .. thank you .. and nice find


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#63 Supraboy1 Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

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Great video,  now that explains why John turner doesn't sell that product.   BTW 1st Radar detectors takes all credit cards



#64 curryrocket Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:37 PM

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Dude, this video is a joke! It's 4 years old, and it was put together by a Blinder muppet!

GTRG2, your best bet is to start a poll and check the results. I love both Blinder and Laser Interceptor, and the ONLY reason why I chose Laser Interceptor is because their diodes were slim for a stealthy fit (whereas Blinder was smaller but squarer), and because their firmware updates were more regular.

Just my 2 cents - and I don't take any credit cards :)



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Just drive civil and take your car to the track to satisfy your need for speed. Arming your car with speed gadgets gives you a false sense of security and putting yourself and others at risk imho. There's no gadget out there that can defeat the simple stopwatch from a Cessna, helicopter or drone,none.

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View Post2swoosh, on 05 May 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Just drive civil and take your car to the track to satisfy your need for speed. Arming your car with speed gadgets gives you a false sense of security and putting yourself and others at risk imho. There's no gadget out there that can defeat the simple stopwatch from a Cessna, helicopter or drone,none.
You are very right about that.  These are not to give false sense but to help drivers out, extra protection.



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View Postrajisalive, on 05 May 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

Dude, this video is a joke! It's 4 years old, and it was put together by a Blinder muppet!

GTRG2, your best bet is to start a poll and check the results. I love both Blinder and Laser Interceptor, and the ONLY reason why I chose Laser Interceptor is because their diodes were slim for a stealthy fit (whereas Blinder was smaller but squarer), and because their firmware updates were more regular.

Just my 2 cents - and I don't take any credit cards :)

The blinder is a great product and from all day searching the only one that wil allow any reputable group to have one for free for testing.

It's sold through many outlets.

All reputable shop/stores will take multiple forms of payment.  

Doing a poll doesn't mean anything for the purposes of this discussion.  The OP needs to do his research spend some time reading and talking to some unbiased experts that sell all the various products not just one, and make an informed decision.  

Is not a bad thing to admit you make mistakes in life.  We have all done it, made bad purchases etc etc.   I know people that bought the phazer jammer which every car magazine has said is as effective as a box of Kleenex.  And even though its completely worthless they will defend thier purchase of this piece of crap to avoid admitting, oops that was a bad idea...



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View PostSupraboy1, on 05 May 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

The blinder is a great product and from all day searching the only one that wil allow any reputable group to have one for free for testing.
Doing a poll doesn't mean anything for the purposes of this discussion.  The OP needs to do his research spend some time reading and talking to some unbiased experts that sell all the various products not just one, and make an informed decision.  
I don't know - doing a poll for GTR owners only sounds like a sensible idea - if I was looking I'd want to know what other GTR owners have put on their cars. And if I had problems, I'd have have a good feeling that I'd get forum support when needed.

I do agree with you Supraboy1 - extensive research is key - but to be honest I was a little disheartened by the marketing BS and seemingly "independent" experts being in bed with either LI or Blinder. Check this Youtube video out, it was released 3 weeks ago -   - LI jams the Laser Ally speed gun and Blinder doesn't. It looks legit but who the hell knows these days!

GTRG2, you're a semi-Brit, you may also want to check out UK's GTROC - there is some good info there too. By the way, you have a sweet ride man - when my GTR grows up it wants to be like yours!



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plugged in my Valentine1 and Escort Redline and Redline took the cake for sure. Detects so much quicker than the Valentine. Less false alarms too.


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had v1 for 6 years and will always have it, has saved me thousands of dollars, its not guaranteed but it will def save you allot if you know how to use it or understand how it works.   i only got tickets with it when my music was to loud and i wasnt paying attention on my other cars, or if i get hit by a direct laser , with no one in front off you, no radar detector will save you, unless  you have a jammer or sommething similar installed if you have cops using lasers around you.  so far  not tickets on my gtr except window tints....   hope it stays that way.


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Just got off the phone with John Turner at 1stradardetector.com   I mentioned the NEW Dragon Eye Laser Gun.  The new Blinder will in fact jam it.



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Without a doubt the best system out there right now is the custom prowler 1 from 1stradardetectors.com I have this system installed in my baby and I've never looked back. The Prowler has twin Bel STi R plus for front and rear radar coverage, Blinder HP 905 Quad laser diverter for the front a Blinder Dual laser diverter for the rear, and the latest Pro DB1 anti photo system for the rear connected to the Applied Physics APCI Power Hub putting EVERYTHING at one button control. Simply amazing system that gave me 360 protection under any condition. Check it out at 1stradardetectors.com I did and I love how it looks and the simplicity of putting a very sophisticated system to one button control. In my opinion this system can't be beat, it's hidden, stealthy and most importantly undetectable. Hope this helps guide your decision.



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View Postevo911, on 05 May 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

plugged in my Valentine1 and Escort Redline and Redline took the cake for sure. Detects so much quicker than the Valentine. Less false alarms too.

Redline here as well. With the new band segmenting firmware it's performance is as good as the almighty STiR Plus.

I used a V1 for 6 years and while the arrows are nice they are extremely overrated.

One scenario where it's good to have arrows is if you are only doing 10-15mph over the limit and you have a car following you that is causing your detector to false alert. Maybe they have a cheap Cobra radar detector (known to leak radar signal) or they have adaptive cruise control. Then the rear arrows help you determine that there is no reason to slow down. Otherwise the arrows are a waste IMO.

Second scenario, why I have a detector to begin with, is you are doing a datalog pull to 140mph for your tuner. If my detector so much as chirps my ass is slowing down. PERIOD. False or not and arrows or not. I'm hitting brakes to be safe rather than sorry I didn't. Plus all detector have what's called "ramp up". As the "brap, braps" increase in frequency/speed or decrease you can tell if you are getting closer to the threat or further from it.

With the new band segmenting (the Escort Redline and newer V1s do this) there are a lot less false alerts on Ka band. Most cops using radar today use Ka band. Not many use K band anymore. If they do it is usually small town areas using older equipment. Again if I hear the Ka "brap, brap" on a segmenting detector it's real and I am hitting brakes.

Here is band segmenting explained.

Cut n paste>>>

The major benefit of segmenting Ka is to eliminate sweeping that part of the Ka Bandwidth were false signals reside but no real radar exists.......below 33.7xxx GHZ.

Here are your Ka segments in red being the ones where 99.9% of mobile radars operate:

Ka1 = 33.392 - 33.704
Ka2 = 33.704 - 33.896 MPH 33.8 Ka
Ka3 = 33.886 - 34.198
Ka4 = 34.184 - 34.592
Ka5 = 34.592 - 34.808 Stalker 34.7 Ka
Ka6 = 34.806 - 35.166
Ka7 = 35.143 - 35.383
Ka8 = 35.378 - 35.618 Kustom / Decatur 35.5 ka
Ka9 = 35.595 - 35.835
Ka10 = 35.830 - 35.998

Turning segment Ka1 off is a must or you will detect every Cobra detector out there. Most other enthusiasts also turn off segments Ka3, Ka4, Ka6, Ka7, Ka9 and Ka10 because you will seldom if ever see a real mobile radar operating in these ranges.

What about the other .01%?

Yes, there is always some small amount of risk. Mainly the risk of running into a seriously out of tune Ka transmitter or the rare old version of the Stalker ATR that operated at 35.2 GHZ.

For those seriously concerned about the ATR you can simply activate Ka7 as well.
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I will also add that the V1 has one horn in the front and suffers from tunnel vision. This means it's off axis performance suffers. Off axis is frontal around bends and over hills scenarios. It still performs well but it will take longer for it to alert to a threat. The VI does have a rear facing horn and does do slightly better in rear threat detection. But in most threat conditions you are targeted from the front and detectors with only front facing horns can still detect splatter from the rear.

So take it for what you think it's worth and your driving style. For me the new Escort Redline fit my needs better than the V1. But hey the V1 is still a kick ass unit. The 6 years I had it I was never let down by it and that was in my single turbo Supra and you can just imagine the speeds I did in that car! :beer:

If anyone here is considering getting a Redline you need to tell them to install the new firmware on the new unit before they ship it out. It's a free software flash but as of last week they still had units on the shelves with the old firmware. They don't have plans to reflash all units already in stock. So you have to request it for now before it is shipped out.


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View Postrajisalive, on 05 May 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:



GTRG2, your best bet is to start a poll and check the results. I love both Blinder and Laser Interceptor, and the ONLY reason why I chose Laser Interceptor is because their diodes were slim for a stealthy fit (whereas Blinder was smaller but squarer), and because their firmware updates were more regular.

Just my 2 cents - and I don't take any credit cards :)

Thank you ... I will get around to it soon


View Post2swoosh, on 05 May 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Just drive civil and take your car to the track to satisfy your need for speed. Arming your car with speed gadgets gives you a false sense of security and putting yourself and others at risk imho. There's no gadget out there that can defeat the simple stopwatch from a Cessna, helicopter or drone,none.

Its a little more complicated then that for me ... I do understand your concern and point of view ... Luckily there are no drones where I live,  Helicopters only get called out if requested so I have a little more room to breathe:)


View PostSupraboy1, on 05 May 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

The blinder is a great product and from all day searching the only one that wil allow any reputable group to have one for free for testing.

It's sold through many outlets.

All reputable shop/stores will take multiple forms of payment.  

Doing a poll doesn't mean anything for the purposes of this discussion.  The OP needs to do his research spend some time reading and talking to some unbiased experts that sell all the various products not just one, and make an informed decision.  



Very good point  - I am definitely on this !  Thank you


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GTRG2, you're a semi-Brit, you may also want to check out UK's GTROC - there is some good info there too. By the way, you have a sweet ride man - when my GTR grows up it wants to be like yours!

LOL - thanks Bro I appreciate the kind words -  I am sure your GTR will be much better once its grown up .. mine is still in the process of growing up - in due time it will be how i need it to be 1000whp daily driver lol  ... fortunately the times I am in the UK my car does not come here with me.  Which is good as this country has a speed camera every few miles in most places.  We may think we got it bad in the states or Canada in terms of radars and cops etc etc - this is one country you cannot mess around in .. I mean ofcourse there are a few places but for most parts they got their shit down packed down here.  Maybe thats why Scotland Yard is the worlds # 1 police force ?

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View Postm3sparky, on 05 May 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

had v1 for 6 years and will always have it, has saved me thousands of dollars, its not guaranteed but it will def save you allot if you know how to use it or understand how it works.   i only got tickets with it when my music was to loud and i wasnt paying attention on my other cars, or if i get hit by a direct laser , with no one in front off you, no radar detector will save you, unless  you have a jammer or sommething similar installed if you have cops using lasers around you.  so far  not tickets on my gtr except window tints....   hope it stays that way.

Thanks for the input .. the V1 is definitely one of the radars I am considering ... along with some jammers to go with


View PostMartman2010, on 06 May 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Without a doubt the best system out there right now is the custom prowler 1 from 1stradardetectors.com I have this system installed in my baby and I've never looked back. The Prowler has twin Bel STi R plus for front and rear radar coverage, Blinder HP 905 Quad laser diverter for the front a Blinder Dual laser diverter for the rear, and the latest Pro DB1 anti photo system for the rear connected to the Applied Physics APCI Power Hub putting EVERYTHING at one button control. Simply amazing system that gave me 360 protection under any condition. Check it out at 1stradardetectors.com I did and I love how it looks and the simplicity of putting a very sophisticated system to one button control. In my opinion this system can't be beat, it's hidden, stealthy and most importantly undetectable. Hope this helps guide your decision.

I am looking into this as I type .. thanks for the suggestion


View Postearico, on 06 May 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

Redline here as well. With the new band segmenting firmware it's performance is as good as the almighty STiR Plus.

I used a V1 for 6 years and while the arrows are nice they are extremely overrated.

One scenario where it's good to have arrows is if you are only doing 10-15mph over the limit and you have a car following you that is causing your detector to false alert. Maybe they have a cheap Cobra radar detector (known to leak radar signal) or they have adaptive cruise control. Then the rear arrows help you determine that there is no reason to slow down. Otherwise the arrows are a waste IMO.

Second scenario, why I have a detector to begin with, is you are doing a datalog pull to 140mph for your tuner. If my detector so much as chirps my ass is slowing down. PERIOD. False or not and arrows or not. I'm hitting brakes to be safe rather than sorry I didn't. Plus all detector have what's called "ramp up". As the "brap, braps" increase in frequency/speed or decrease you can tell if you are getting closer to the threat or further from it.

With the new band segmenting (the Escort Redline and newer V1s do this) there are a lot less false alerts on Ka band. Most cops using radar today use Ka band. Not many use K band anymore. If they do it is usually small town areas using older equipment. Again if I hear the Ka "brap, brap" on a segmenting detector it's real and I am hitting brakes.

Here is band segmenting explained.

Cut n paste>>>

The major benefit of segmenting Ka is to eliminate sweeping that part of the Ka Bandwidth were false signals reside but no real radar exists.......below 33.7xxx GHZ.

Here are your Ka segments in red being the ones where 99.9% of mobile radars operate:

Ka1 = 33.392 - 33.704
Ka2 = 33.704 - 33.896 MPH 33.8 Ka
Ka3 = 33.886 - 34.198
Ka4 = 34.184 - 34.592
Ka5 = 34.592 - 34.808 Stalker 34.7 Ka
Ka6 = 34.806 - 35.166
Ka7 = 35.143 - 35.383
Ka8 = 35.378 - 35.618 Kustom / Decatur 35.5 ka
Ka9 = 35.595 - 35.835
Ka10 = 35.830 - 35.998

Turning segment Ka1 off is a must or you will detect every Cobra detector out there. Most other enthusiasts also turn off segments Ka3, Ka4, Ka6, Ka7, Ka9 and Ka10 because you will seldom if ever see a real mobile radar operating in these ranges.

What about the other .01%?

Yes, there is always some small amount of risk. Mainly the risk of running into a seriously out of tune Ka transmitter or the rare old version of the Stalker ATR that operated at 35.2 GHZ.

For those seriously concerned about the ATR you can simply activate Ka7 as well.
<<<Cut n paste

I will also add that the V1 has one horn in the front and suffers from tunnel vision. This means it's off axis performance suffers. Off axis is frontal around bends and over hills scenarios. It still performs well but it will take longer for it to alert to a threat. The VI does have a rear facing horn and does do slightly better in rear threat detection. But in most threat conditions you are targeted from the front and detectors with only front facing horns can still detect splatter from the rear.

So take it for what you think it's worth and your driving style. For me the new Escort Redline fit my needs better than the V1. But hey the V1 is still a kick ass unit. The 6 years I had it I was never let down by it and that was in my single turbo Supra and you can just imagine the speeds I did in that car! :beer:

If anyone here is considering getting a Redline you need to tell them to install the new firmware on the new unit before they ship it out. It's a free software flash but as of last week they still had units on the shelves with the old firmware. They don't have plans to reflash all units already in stock. So you have to request it for now before it is shipped out.


WOW - that is some very useful information .. thanks a million


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View PostGTRG2, on 06 May 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

WOW - that is some very useful information .. thanks a million

You're welcome. I just spent days reading and researching to make my decision to get the Redline.


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#76 doctorspeed1 Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:13 PM

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View Postearico, on 06 May 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:


You're welcome. I just spent days reading and researching to make my decision to get the Redline.
Do you know if the 9500ci has similar firmware for ka band coverage?


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View Postdoctorspeed1, on 06 May 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Do you know if the 9500ci has similar firmware for ka band coverage?

Unfortunately it does not and Escort has said in the forums that there are no plans to give the 9500s band segmenting.


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View Postearico, on 06 May 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Unfortunately it does not and Escort has said in the forums that there are no plans to give the 9500s band segmenting.

Please provide proof of this.  I'm not finding that to be the case.



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The redline can not be updated... it has no USB port and clearly on their website its a fixed design unit..



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View PostSupraboy1, on 06 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

The redline can not be updated... it has no USB port and clearly on their website its a fixed design unit..

You send it in for a firmware flash. Did mine 2 weeks ago.


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