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#1 1flossedm3 Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:36 PM

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Going to be ordering a set of aftermarket 20" wheels and tires to replace the SHIT runflats I have now.

I plan on doing Swift springs likely for a mild wheel gap elimination drop as I hear they ride decent.

Best tires for a car under 700whp? Temps get to be 35-40 here at night during some months when the car isn't in storage.

I do not want to die.

Wheels: 20x10 / 20x12

Size recommendation?


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#2 Rguy Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:38 PM

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BFG Rival. Better than PSS, but not as many compromises as the R888.



#3 Goonthree Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:46 PM

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I have 2 sets of rims, one r888s and one mpss.  If not racing for that last tenth I would go Michelin.  My Michelins are on same size rim you specified with 285/35/20 and 335/30/20.



#4 1flossedm3 Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:47 PM

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I read the ride quality is greatly improved on the MPSS vs the stock run flats and they are much less noisy than the R888s?


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#5 Mike S Posted 12 March 2014 - 08:52 PM

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Go with the Michelin. They last a lot longer, are cheaper, less road noise, better grip in cold and rain, etc.

R888s will get you better traction when it is warmer, but they also come along with all the other issues above. Stock turbo car will have no issues with MPSS.



#6 vtknight Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:00 PM

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View PostMike S, on 12 March 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

Go with the Michelin. They last a lot longer, are cheaper, less road noise, better grip in cold and rain, etc.

R888s will get you better traction when it is warmer, but they also come along with all the other issues above. Stock turbo car will have no issues with MPSS.

Floss - this is well said. If you are closer to FBO on stock turbos you can get away with MPSS's and they last much longer and are much quieter.

I need to use R888's due to my power level (R1K) and R888's or Nitto 555r's are the only tires - which have 100 tread wear - that do the trick.

Plus my car is really loud so I don't hear any road noise anyway.



#7 1flossedm3 Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

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10-4, thanks guys. It's what I suspected.

This the reccomended size 285/35/20 and 335/30/20. ?


Those will look OK dropped on Swifts?  

Edited by 1flossedm3, 12 March 2014 - 09:02 PM.



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#8 Goonthree Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:05 PM

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All correct as I have a set of stock wheels on stock run flats also.  So I have all 3 sets of tires you mentioned.

View Post1flossedm3, on 12 March 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

I read the ride quality is greatly improved on the MPSS vs the stock run flats and they are much less noisy than the R888s?




#9 Mike S Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:06 PM

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View Post1flossedm3, on 12 March 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

10-4, thanks guys. It's what I suspected.

This the reccomended size 285/35/20 and 335/30/20. ?


Those will look OK dropped on Swifts?  

Those are the correct sizes. Should look awesome lowered :)



#10 Dntlvet Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:08 PM

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So now where is the best source to purchase them?



#11 1flossedm3 Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:12 PM

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View PostDntlvet, on 12 March 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

So now where is the best source to purchase them?

Shop the vendors in the tire and wheels section, I found good prices in there. I'm going to order likely from where I get my wheels though.


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#12 Mike S Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:40 PM

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285 - http://www.discounte...10827&pID=44256
335 - http://www.discounte...91621&pID=44286



#13 Cheburashka Posted 13 March 2014 - 01:34 AM

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Only advantage you get with R888 is dry grip and looks. Other than that, MPSS.


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#14 Harrison Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:34 AM

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I had r888's, went pss and today I'm putting r888's on again.  I think r888's will be better for your 700whp goal.  They are firmer, have better traction and you feel more stable around corners.  They are pretty noisy and thread life is not as good as the pss.  R888's hook a lot better as well.


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#15 bigplansnocar Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:41 AM

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So what's the word on these BFG Rivals that I'm hearing more about lately? Wonder where they fit in with the PSS and R888?


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#16 BCFDGTR Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:37 AM

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View Postbigplansnocar, on 13 March 2014 - 06:41 AM, said:

So what's the word on these BFG Rivals that I'm hearing more about lately? Wonder where they fit in with the PSS and R888?

I'd like to know this as well!



#17 MattMan Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:48 AM

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BFG Rivals have had good feedback but in 20"s you can't really run a staggered setup. You'll most likely need to run 285s all around. They only come in 35 side profile


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#18 BCFDGTR Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:58 AM

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View PostMattMan, on 13 March 2014 - 07:48 AM, said:

BFG Rivals have had good feedback but in 20"s you can't really run a staggered setup. You'll most likely need to run 285s all around. They only come in 35 side profile

So why can't a 285/35/20 front and 315/35/20 rear be ran?



#19 MattMan Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:11 AM

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View PostBCFDGTR, on 13 March 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:



So why can't a 285/35/20 front and 315/35/20 rear be ran?

Ideally you want the rear with 30 profile in order to keep front and rear rolling diameter to be close.  If you have a large enough difference, it can affect your AWD system and could burn your forward clutch


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#20 BCFDGTR Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:35 AM

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View PostMattMan, on 13 March 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:


Ideally you want the rear with 30 profile in order to keep front and rear rolling diameter to be close.  If you have a large enough difference, it can affect your AWD system and could burn your forward clutch

I know this but I'm asking if it would be safe to work? Anyone do the math and see?





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