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Nissan Head Designer: R36 years off but will be Fastest(Brick) of its Kind



From Autocar Interview
 
 
Nissan is in the very early phases of designing and engineering an all-new platform for the next-generation GT-R — but has still to decide how much electrification the car’s powertrain will adopt.
Talking exclusively to Autocar at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, Nissan design boss Alfonso Albaisa said the car won’t take cues from the limited-run GT-R50 special edition on show this weekend, but “has to be its own special car”. He said it has to be “the fastest super sports car in the world” and retain a visual identity that's unique among cars of its kind.
Although he’s constantly reviewing sketches for the car, Albaisa said his team can’t begin serious work until decisions are made about the powertrain and the new platform is finalised.
“The challenge is on the engineer, to be honest,” he said. “We will do our jobs when the time comes to make the car something really special. But we’re not even close to that yet
That suggests the new GT-R is still several years from production readiness, meaning it’s likely to arrive early in the next decade.
Albaisa said that while Nissan was undecided on the powertrain, he admitted that electrification was likely, albeit not confirmed.
Whether we go to a lot of electrification or none at all, we can achieve a lot power wise,” he said. “But we are definitely making a new ‘platform’ and our goal is clear: GT-R has to be the quickest car of its kind. It has to ‘own’ the track. And it has to play the advanced technology game; but that doesn’t mean it has to be electric.”
The electrified powertrain of Nissan’s stillborn hybrid LMP1 GT-R racing car, which was developed for the 2016 World Endurance Championship but never raced, could provide a glimpse of what’s to come. That car used a twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 engine and hybrid electric system; Nissan pulled the plug on the project before the race.
If a similar system were used in the next GT-R, the boost of torque should ensure that, despite a loss of around 800cc in engine capacity compared with the current GT-R, the overall output could make it the most potent version of the super coupé family to have made production.
 
The current car produces 562bhp in standard form, suggesting significantly more than 600bhp is possible in the next car.
“We simply have to reflect people’s dreams; and I think people dream that the next GT-R will be the hottest super sports car in the world,” said Albaisa.
He said that the next car would have a muscular character like the R35 in order to retain the GT-R “beast”, adding: “It’s an animal; it has to be imposing and excessive. Not in terms of its wings, but rather its visual mass, its presence and its audacity.
“It doesn’t care what every other supercar in the world is doing; it simply says: ‘I’m a GT-R, I’m a brick, catch me.’ It’s the world’s fastest brick, really. And when I review sketches for the new car, I say that a lot: “Less wing, more brick.'”

 

 

 

 

 

 



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0-60 needs to be around 2 seconds. I dont care about the weight really if it can go fast around the track beating its competitors. Id rather they keep the price reasonable. The new Corvette will be over $170K.

That $170K figure often cited for the C8 Corvette will be for a top of the line model. The current C7 ZR1 can easily be optioned out to $145K or so. Base/Stingray C8 pricing hasn't been determined yet but I'm sure well below $100K.

That $170K figure often cited for the C8 Corvette will be for a top of the line model. The current C7 ZR1 can easily be optioned out to $145K or so. Base/Stingray C8 pricing hasn't been determined yet but I'm sure well below $100K.

This price creep is not appetizing.  

 

... Lest we forget the '09 Base GT-R (that I've never seen in real life) cost $68k...??

 

(which, at the time, did not have an upper line (powertrain related))

This price creep is not appetizing.  

 

... Lest we forget the '09 Base GT-R (that I've never seen in real life) cost $68k...??

 

(which, at the time, did not have an upper line (powertrain related))

 

Price creep or inflation + improvements? It came out almost 10 years ago. $69k in 2009 is the equivalent of $81k in 2018. With the added performance and overhauled interior, I'd say $95k is a fair starting price, so not too far off. As of 2018 it's up 85 horsepower and 37 lb/ft torque with a completely redesigned interior. Drive a 2009 GT-R and even a 2013 and tell me there wasn't a huge improvement in overall quality and performance. 

And dont forget the GTR has one of the best residuals. A 2009 still sells for $55K in todays money ... so using the inflation and value of money above, say it costs $81K to get a brand new 2009 today, you think yon can drive a car for 10 years and still retain 67% of its price ($55K retained out of $81K)?

You think if you drive a Camaro or Corvette for 10 years it will only depreciate 33%? I dont think so.

Interesting R36 GT-R rendering by Enoch Gabriel Gonzales. Looks to be a blend of R35, GT-R50, and 2020 Vision GT-R concept.

 

https://www.motor1.c...an-gt-r-render/

 

https://www.behance.net/enochgabriel 

 

2021-nissan-gt-r-design-render.jpg

Thanks for the pics. I would buy that design. Its a really nice evolution. And I found this quote particularly interesting:
"The 3.0-liter V6 [from the LMP1 car] is a sort of god-child of the true, road-going GT-R," Nissan exec Shiro Nakamura said in an interview. "It is truly an early ancestor of what will be a future Nissan GT-R engine."
Ok this definitely cannot be the R36. It needs to be miles more advanced.

I honestly believe the design will be more revolutionary than even that rendering. The GT-R50 and Vision concept are nice but something tells me they're really gonna try to shake things up while keeping the key elements that make it a Skyline/GT-R.

Interesting R36 GT-R rendering by Enoch Gabriel Gonzales. Looks to be a blend of R35, GT-R50, and 2020 Vision GT-R concept.

 

I quite like the look of this. Nice evolution of the design in my opinion.

I think it looks like someone made it for their High school visual arts class project

I think it looks like someone made it for their High school visual arts class project

 

Haha it doesn't look very revolutionary, but I still like it for some reason. Gonna be interesting to see the direction they go.   

I know that the probability of a rear-mid-engine R36 is about zero but one at least one artist is imagining a rear-mid-engine r36. Unfortunately this render looks a little like an R35 had a baby with a Pontiac Fiero.

https://s1.cdn.autoe...ld-122917_1.jpg

Source: Rain Prisk Art Station

https://rainprisk.artstation.com

Liking the look of the mid engine rendering. Looks closer to an exotic. I do not see fiero so I do like it.

The mid engine rendering looks great. Sexy looking car.
My top 3 rendering for r36 .they should make the R36 mid engine all wheel drive Attached Image: IMG_0094.jpg Attached Image: IMG_0096.jpg Attached Image: IMG_0099.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
A mid engine GTR is not a GTR.

My top 3 rendering for r36 .they should make the R36 mid engine all wheel drive attachicon.gifIMG_0094.jpgattachicon.gifIMG_0096.jpgattachicon.gifIMG_0099.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

Really liking the styling of the second one.  

I think it looks like someone made it for their High school visual arts class project

 

 

Agreed lmao

I don't know how I feel about manufacturers starting to do the whole electric motor to power the front wheels and regular petrol for rear wheels.  I know they were talking about doing the C8 corvette that way, I guess it's the way at the future.

0-60 needs to be around 2 seconds. I dont care about the weight really if it can go fast around the track beating its competitors. Id rather they keep the price reasonable. The new Corvette will be over $170K.

 

0-60 in 2 seconds in an 2+2 front engined AWD and possibly a hybrid? It'll need at least a 900 HP for a car around 3700 pounds. That's a car which needs some serious engineering effort. So you can make such a car for a million dollars, maybe just under a million, but not under $200,000.  :wink:      

I don't know how I feel about manufacturers starting to do the whole electric motor to power the front wheels and regular petrol for rear wheels.  I know they were talking about doing the C8 corvette that way, I guess it's the way at the future.

 

They have to do something for that instant torque. Teslas smoking race cars on youtube is not a good look. 

 

They have to do something for that instant torque. Teslas smoking race cars on youtube is not a good look. 

 

THIS! But god Tesla's are so boringgg! 

 

THIS! But god Tesla's are so boringgg! 

+1 to your comment. I know the Tesla's are technological marvels and the wave of the future. Yes, they can be insanely quick. But I look at them and every time my reaction is, "Meh".

this is a great article. I cant wait to see what is in store for us as technology continues to push the bar.

Wonderful read! Thanks :thumbsup: