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Nissan Head Designer: R36 years off but will be Fastest(Brick) of its Kind



From Autocar Interview
 
 
Nissan is in the very early phases of designing and engineering an all-new platform for the next-generation GT-R — but has still to decide how much electrification the car’s powertrain will adopt.
Talking exclusively to Autocar at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, Nissan design boss Alfonso Albaisa said the car won’t take cues from the limited-run GT-R50 special edition on show this weekend, but “has to be its own special car”. He said it has to be “the fastest super sports car in the world” and retain a visual identity that's unique among cars of its kind.
Although he’s constantly reviewing sketches for the car, Albaisa said his team can’t begin serious work until decisions are made about the powertrain and the new platform is finalised.
“The challenge is on the engineer, to be honest,” he said. “We will do our jobs when the time comes to make the car something really special. But we’re not even close to that yet
That suggests the new GT-R is still several years from production readiness, meaning it’s likely to arrive early in the next decade.
Albaisa said that while Nissan was undecided on the powertrain, he admitted that electrification was likely, albeit not confirmed.
Whether we go to a lot of electrification or none at all, we can achieve a lot power wise,” he said. “But we are definitely making a new ‘platform’ and our goal is clear: GT-R has to be the quickest car of its kind. It has to ‘own’ the track. And it has to play the advanced technology game; but that doesn’t mean it has to be electric.”
The electrified powertrain of Nissan’s stillborn hybrid LMP1 GT-R racing car, which was developed for the 2016 World Endurance Championship but never raced, could provide a glimpse of what’s to come. That car used a twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 engine and hybrid electric system; Nissan pulled the plug on the project before the race.
If a similar system were used in the next GT-R, the boost of torque should ensure that, despite a loss of around 800cc in engine capacity compared with the current GT-R, the overall output could make it the most potent version of the super coupé family to have made production.
 
The current car produces 562bhp in standard form, suggesting significantly more than 600bhp is possible in the next car.
“We simply have to reflect people’s dreams; and I think people dream that the next GT-R will be the hottest super sports car in the world,” said Albaisa.
He said that the next car would have a muscular character like the R35 in order to retain the GT-R “beast”, adding: “It’s an animal; it has to be imposing and excessive. Not in terms of its wings, but rather its visual mass, its presence and its audacity.
“It doesn’t care what every other supercar in the world is doing; it simply says: ‘I’m a GT-R, I’m a brick, catch me.’ It’s the world’s fastest brick, really. And when I review sketches for the new car, I say that a lot: “Less wing, more brick.'”

 

 

 

 

 

 



125 Comments

All I got from this article... 

 

#1 Hold on to my R35 another few years

#2 License plate "BRICK 36"

 

It may change - we'll see.  

I think if they go to crazy it could end up like the LFA. Just drop the weight and a bit more power and it would be better. Better yet, make a stripped down version. 1 seat, No fancy stereo system, Gauges only, light weight wheels, CF hood, trunk, wing, roof, fenders, 650 HP (Old Gentlemen's agreement style), drop 400 LBS and done. Nismo V-spec.

I would love a high tech v8 TT in the R36 Happy if they don't change the appearance too dramatically. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

read the article also on yahoo. came straight here for the comments. 

“Less wing, more brick.'”

I am really curious what they will turn out.  I am always hesitant to see big changes in a car model, but they are not always bad like the new Eclipse.  

Hopefully they listen to some of the enthusiasts inputs and address overheating and brake issues, improved aero to create the necessary downforce vs getting the downforce weight through increased weight of the car.

It would be cool if they could bring the GTR price down somewhat to allow those of us who enjoyed building out their GTR the opportunity to do it with a less expensive starting platform. 

Anyways, I have been out of the game for a while, but I still miss having a car I can take to the track or fit my family in with all their gear so heres to hoping the new GTR is as exciting and utilitarian as the current model.

lol at the carbon fiber and shed weight shit! One of the reason that GTRs are fast is because of their weight and center gravity magic that keeps the car moving like some crazy magnet pulling her from the other side! Thats the Japanese unique technology on this car!

Besides, who the hell is Alfonso Albaise? Another Q50 Eu Rouge dude talking on behalf of Nissan's? Pshh.. Need to see a Japanese name here!

Asian import taxes are suppose to be 20%....EU imports 25%....The new GT-R will be pricey if its made at all.


Plus 1, little lighter will be better. But they've already said that it will not loose that much weight, also agree on Japanese design not some exotic design, they should build and design everything in Japan, thats what people want.
See what happened to the nsx when they decide to build and design it out of Japan....
Nissan please learn from the nsx...


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lol at the carbon fiber and shed weight shit! One of the reason that GTRs are fast is because of their weight and center gravity magic that keeps the car moving like some crazy magnet pulling her from the other side! Thats the Japanese unique technology on this car!

Besides, who the hell is Alfonso Albaise? Another Q50 Eu Rouge dude talking on behalf of Nissan's? Pshh.. Need to see a Japanese name here![/quote]

Plus 1, little lighter will be better. But they've already said that it will not loose that much weight, also agree on Japanese design not some exotic design, they should build and design everything in Japan, thats what people want.
See what happened to the nsx when they decide to build and design it out of Japan....
Nissan please learn from the nsx...

 

Pretty much all of the core engineering and design of the NSX was done in Japan. The "American supercar" marketing stuff they pushed is a gimmick to appeal to the baby boomers who want 'Murica or nothin. It's no more American than a BMW is. A friend of mine is an engineer for Honda in the US and worked on the NSX from start to finish. Working out bugs and tweaking test mules is the extent of the engineering work done in the US. 

Head designer of the NSX is very green and very American... Wrong move.

https://en.m.wikiped...lle_Christensen

 
Pretty much all of the core engineering and design of the NSX was done in Japan. The "American supercar" marketing stuff they pushed is a gimmick to appeal to the baby boomers who want 'Murica or nothin. It's no more American than a BMW is. A friend of mine is an engineer for Honda in the US and worked on the NSX from start to finish. Working out bugs and tweaking test mules is the extent of the engineering work done in the US. 

Head designer of the NSX is very green and very American... Wrong move.

https://en.m.wikiped...lle_Christensen
 

 

So? Horacio Pagani is Argentinian, that doesn't make the cars any less Italian. BMW has a plant in SC where they manufacture the X models and Mercedes in Alabama, that doesn't make them American cars. 

 

It clearly isn't what people wanted, but I'm only pointing out that being an "American car" is a misnomer when the direction and majority of the design and engineering took place in Japan. 

So? I quoted your statement. Whats so hard to understand?

Iconic Japanese car like the NSX should be designed by the Japanese. Not some kid out of the United States fresh out of design school with a few years on the prior NSX project.

 
So? Horacio Pagani is Argentinian, that doesn't make the cars any less Italian. BMW has a plant in SC where they manufacture the X models and Mercedes in Alabama, that doesn't make them American cars. 
 
It clearly isn't what people wanted, but I'm only pointing out that being an "American car" is a misnomer when the direction and majority of the design and engineering took place in Japan. 

So? I quoted your statement. Whats so hard to understand?

Iconic Japanese car like the NSX should be designed by the Japanese. Not some kid out of the United States fresh out of design school with a few years on the prior NSX project.
 

 

The Zonda and Huyara aren't Italian, neither is the Countach. Got it. 

No. You said the present NSX was engineered and designed in Japan. Wrong. Now youre arguing the flip. Nice try.

 
The Zonda and Huyara aren't Italian, neither is the Countach. Got it. 

No. You said the present NSX was engineered and designed in Japan. Wrong. Now youre arguing the flip. Nice try.
 

 

No, it's very much the same thing, you're just not getting it. The bulk of the engineering work came from Japan. 

The NSX is soul-less...

No one is buying the bullshit. Literally... Sales of the NSX are nonexistent. Speaks for itself.
If anyone is responsible for the actual engineering debacle of NSX 2.0, it's project leader and minivan-based SUV engineer Ted Klaus. He's the genius who thought he could run a transverse Honda SOHC J-block in NSX 2.0 until he figured out that didn't work so to save the project from never coming to life he custom ordered an engine from Cosworth as a rush order, which is contrary to Honda's philosophy under Soichiro where they, you know, used actual engineering sorcery and F1 knowledge to convert a everyday C block pushing 160HP in a G1 Legend to 270HP with a complete rework in the NA1 NSX. Michelle Christensen did design the exterior of NSX 2.0, complete with the Power Rangers grille.

I'm just glad there is going to be a R36......

Nissan just does not need to over think it. Out source the motor and drive train to AMS or TSM .........850 HP and just fine tune the radical body we saw 3 years ago..........

Have 3 real levels of cars with different power levels like 600, 700 and 850 and charge accordingly.........

Nissan just does not need to over think it. Out source the motor and drive train to AMS or TSM .........850 HP and just fine tune the radical body we saw 3 years ago..........
Have 3 real levels of cars with different power levels like 600, 700 and 850 and charge accordingly.........



The different power levels and prices would be a really smart move. Instead of trying to make one destroyer of all cars type GT-R with one $$$ price, offer different levels to get better economies of scale...

The way Nissan is moving by the time they actually have the car ready for production it will be old news and the price, probably around $200,000. 

Nissan just does not need to over think it. Out source the motor and drive train to AMS or TSM .........850 HP and just fine tune the radical body we saw 3 years ago..........

Have 3 real levels of cars with different power levels like 600, 700 and 850 and charge accordingly.........

 

You are missing the point. OEM spend millions to billions for longevity and reliability. Its not hard to make a limited run of high power HP, its much cost prohibitive to make a mainstream product that will not haunt your warranty budget after selling it.

 

IMO and after driving and owning multiple sport cars, the closest evolution currently to the R35 is the Audi R8 V10 2.0. Next tier should be both the 720S and the Tesla Roadster 2.0. However, it's sad the R8 line is getting axed though. However, that should be alongside the 911 Turbo S the benchmark for the R36. I will gladly pay 150-180G for a GTR that delivers comparable performance, touch, quality to a 220 R8 V10 2.0.

 

Im happy I will be able to enjoy my built R35 for quite some time though! If I could afford it, i'll be jumping in a 720S or an R8 V10 2.0. I have a deposit on the roadster 2.0 however I might cancel as I will be moving away from their charging stations making it impractical for me.

The NSX is soul-less...

No one is buying the bullshit. Literally... Sales of the NSX are nonexistent. Speaks for itself.

Soul-less?

 

Where is this soul located in any other car?  Is it in the MFD?  The black box recording device?  The engine?  

 

Probably add that as an option...  Maybe only the red NSXs don't have souls.  

 

Please help me identify where the souls are in any car.  

 

Also - it would help if you could identify the cars with manufacturer installed souls.  

You took the literal meaning and youre trying to make an argument. LMAO...

They took the opportunity to continue what the prior NSX was and threw it in the trash.

R32-R33-R34-R35 Progress and evolution of the platform. Japanese design and engineering. Same soul. The new NSX was designed in the US by some kid out of design school with a few intern years on the tail end of the last NSX...

Again, no one is buying the bullshit. Literally. Sales are nonexistent.

Soul-less?
 
Where is this soul located in any other car?  Is it in the MFD?  The black box recording device?  The engine?  
 
Probably add that as an option...  Maybe only the red NSXs don't have souls.  
 
Please help me identify where the souls are in any car.  
 
Also - it would help if you could identify the cars with manufacturer installed souls.