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#41 droptopp

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Posted 09 December 2020 - 12:06 PM

FWIW not many FBO e85 cars trap 138. 135-136 is the norm. Locally I’ve only seen one car in 10 years run 138 and he was lightened up a bit (seats, hood, single rear exhaust, etc.).
Cicio Performance billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, Zenith R turbos, Cicio wet sump oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid, down pipe, race FMIC, STM titanium axle back, ID2000s, Shep One K with drop gears, DS Axles, Volk Saga 18 10/12 (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20 R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : more AMS motors than anyone I know - Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Posted 09 December 2020 - 03:14 PM

FWIW not many FBO e85 cars trap 138. 135-136 is the norm. Locally I’ve only seen one car in 10 years run 138 and he was lightened up a bit (seats, hood, single rear exhaust, etc.).

 

I would agree. You won't see 138 on your typical fbo car like 99% of them. 135 is much more realistic for the masses.


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Posted 20 December 2020 - 11:07 PM

Here's another Gateway time slip posted on FB. 750whp at 4k DA. Passenger seat removed. 142mph trap speed. Pretty sure FBO cars don't trap 140s.

Starting from stock... For 8/10ths of the performance, $19k for Gateways at 800whp with warranty or to start a bigger build, starting price of $40k Hmmm... have both quotes in front of me. Hard decision. (not really).

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Edited by L.L., 20 December 2020 - 11:10 PM.

2016 Nissan GT-R Black Edition Cicio/Xona 55mm Turbochargers | AMS Alpha Induction Kit | AMS Alpha Race Intercooler | ETS 3.5" Intakes
AMS Alpha 90mm DP | HKS Resonated Midpipe | HKS 45th Anniversary 2-Stage Exhaust
TIAL Q BOV | OMNI 4.0 BAR Map Sensor | AMS Alpha Coolant Expansion Tank | AMS Alpha Splash Shield
ID1300 Injectors | Fore FC3 Fuel Pump Controller | Walbro 485 Fuel Pumps x2 | GT1R Flex Fuel Kit | Visconti FP Monitoring Kit
2021 Nismo wheels | Toyo R888R Tires 285/35/20F / 325/30/20R
Stock Block/Transmission | Speed Density on EcuTek | Tuned by Taylor @ Cicio Performance  | [email protected] (7,637 DA) 
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Posted 21 December 2020 - 12:01 PM

Congrats, that's a solid MPH!



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Posted 21 December 2020 - 05:11 PM

LL what’s the build list for your bigger build?



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Posted 21 December 2020 - 11:46 PM

There are a lot of inline parts once you progress to a full build as well, axles, trans, pans as well as nuisance items that will start to fail, ets, diff, etc. If you do not like downtime and/or the headaches that come along with them, the gateway is about as sound as you can get without buying a Mac lol

Edited by droptopp, 21 December 2020 - 11:48 PM.

Cicio Performance billet Crank 4.1 w/ CP billet pistons, Zenith R turbos, Cicio wet sump oling upgrade, flex fuel, ETS mid, down pipe, race FMIC, STM titanium axle back, ID2000s, Shep One K with drop gears, DS Axles, Volk Saga 18 10/12 (MT ET Streets), Advan GT Premium 20 R888. 1450+ hp / 1210+ tq

Old setups : more AMS motors than anyone I know - Alpha 9 w/ AMS 3.8, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.1 billet crank, GTX3582R Gen II w/ AMS 4.0 big bore billet crank and of course FBO E85.

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Posted 22 December 2020 - 03:49 AM

Congrats, that's a solid MPH!

 
That is another C800 owner's time slip that was recently posted on Facebook. Nice MPH nonetheless. I surmise your car would trap similarly so congrats to you! 
 

LL whats the build list for your bigger build?

 
Hey Jojo, here's the breakdown below. Might get long but I didn't want to provide a build list without context because it would look very incomplete.
 
The "bigger build" I mentioned in my previous post is just an entry level, get your foot in the door "bigger build" with room for growth further down the road. In other words, I requested the quote from Jan as we have some time while waiting for parts to arrive and, if anything, it provides a comparison for those discussions where we sometimes throw around the "let's build it while the motor is out" scenarios. I wanted to understand those bare minimum costs for building the motor out to handle maxing out the Gateways or similar turbos which is the next step up from the C800 package. In reality, as droptopp mentioned, with the other inline parts and upgrades needed for longevity, the $41k is just really a starting point and ideally you'd want to add at least some of the other components for a reliable and enjoyable experience to handle the bigger build power levels. In other words, the costs can start increasing quickly to handle the power levels above the C800.
 
The quoted section (top section) doesn't include the BYO parts that weren't included in the quote. I'll break those out separately as I would be providing the BYO parts that are either already in my possession or would be sourced direct. List pricing will be used to show the true cost for most situations. I would probably upgrade a few things to get as close as possible to the limits of the stock crank at ~12-1300whp if I were to move forward with the bigger build in the future so, realistically, I think true cost of getting to the level I'd want from near stock would be closer to $65-80k dependent on those choices. This has been consistent with other quotes I've received in the past for a similar build.
 
C1000 Build - Total is $41k with Gateways. Excluding the small but necessary items; here are the major components. 
  • 3.8L Street Short Block         -   $ 6,995
  • Level 0 Head Package          -   $ 2,199
  • GSC 274/274 Cams              -   $ 1,575
  • Shep 2.5 v2 w/1st gear set    -  $  7,895
  • Gateway Turbos                    -   $ 4,995
  • ID1700x Injectors                   -  $ 1,740
  • Dual 485 pumps                     -  $    350
  • Hardwire Kit                           -   $    320
  • Visconti Fuel Pressure Kit      -  $    300
  • GT1R Flex Fuel Kit                 -  $    625
  • 4BAR SD kit                            -  $    400
  • Tial Q BOVs                            -  $    600                          
  • Ecutek                                     -  $    950
  • Tuning (ECM/TCM/Dyno)        -  $ 1,800
  • All necessary new OEM parts ($1,650)
  • Fluids & Misc Maintenance 
  • Labor (~25% of the quote is labor cost)
 
BYOP List:
  • AMS Race Intercooler (+3k)
  • AMS Upper IC Pipes (+1k)
  • AMS Downpipes (+1k)
  • AMS AOS Kit (+700)
  • ETS 3.5 Intakes (+700)
  • AMS Coolant Tank (+500)
  • HKS 102mm Exhaust (+3.5k)
  • HKS Midpipe (+$800)
  • Shep 1K w/full gear set (+11k)
  • DSS 1K Axles (+2.7k) 
 
Cost comparison -- Roughly 72% cost increase in $/HP gained to go from stock to 812whp vs stock to 1000whp on a bigger build.
 
From stock baseline of 483whp to 812whp   with C800  = $19,355/329hp =  $58.83/HP gained   (using Kama's baseline and final dyno #s as the example)
 
From stock baseline of 483whp to 1000whp with C1000 = $52,200/517hp = $101/HP gained (excluding Shep1k and DSS axles)
 
Of course it might be possible to use other parts for cost savings, but typically, it's probably best just to go with what Jan suggests if they fit your goals.

Edited by L.L., 22 December 2020 - 06:52 AM.

2016 Nissan GT-R Black Edition Cicio/Xona 55mm Turbochargers | AMS Alpha Induction Kit | AMS Alpha Race Intercooler | ETS 3.5" Intakes
AMS Alpha 90mm DP | HKS Resonated Midpipe | HKS 45th Anniversary 2-Stage Exhaust
TIAL Q BOV | OMNI 4.0 BAR Map Sensor | AMS Alpha Coolant Expansion Tank | AMS Alpha Splash Shield
ID1300 Injectors | Fore FC3 Fuel Pump Controller | Walbro 485 Fuel Pumps x2 | GT1R Flex Fuel Kit | Visconti FP Monitoring Kit
2021 Nismo wheels | Toyo R888R Tires 285/35/20F / 325/30/20R
Stock Block/Transmission | Speed Density on EcuTek | Tuned by Taylor @ Cicio Performance  | [email protected] (7,637 DA) 
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Posted 22 December 2020 - 09:40 PM

I live in a congested metro area, and radar detectors are illegal in my state, so no crazy runs from me but here is an INVALID (according to Dragy) run for the 1/8 mile on the street, no prep obviously.  It's remarkably close to the the time slip you posted so I *should* trap in the low 140s on a prepped track similar DA, blah, blah, blah.

 

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This is a badass setup for the street for the average person who wants minimal down-time and as reliable a platform as 1000HP cars get.  Open up the wallet from here as it adds up quickly.  

 

But I still think it's a bargain when you compare to Calvo Vipers, UGR Lambos, etc. when you think about "big builds".

 

 

 

 



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Posted 10 May 2021 - 01:34 PM

Just bringing this thread back up with some actual results.

 

I was able to go 9.7 @ 144 with my Gateway turbo's this weekend. My 60 foot was 1.53 on a set for MT Street R's-- which I couldn't heat up since I don't have a AWD controller. Feel like if I swap to slicks, I could probably get that number down a bit.

 

Mods on the car are Gateway turbos on stock motor, AMS race intercooler with piping, AMS downpipes, ETS 4" exhaust and a OneK trans. Car makes just over 750whp on a Mustang dyno. 


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Posted 11 May 2021 - 06:03 AM

Congrats!

 

I commented on your other thread as well on the launch strategy.

 

The street r's are the same compound as the full slicks so there won't be much difference there.

 

track prep and launch settings all come into play.

 

But with good prep 1.4s are easily attainable.


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