He probably does feel that way. He is a little out of touch with reality though, so I think we should excuse him.
Now, on with the show, robharr61! Everyone is getting a good kick out of this
Singer, I don't know how many launches - I just threw that number out as a suggestion. You tell me and tell why you're so sure of your answer.
To provide a bit more information about me:
1. The car I bought was launched 4 times on a test drive. My salesman set the buttons and I did the launches. I had asked him for the launches, because I was NOT IMPRESSED with the non-LC standing-start acceleration - and I was not going to buy the car unless he demonstarted the "crushing acceleration" I read about in the magazines.
2. I did buy that car, but only after the launches. Neither my salesman nor I thought we had done anything harmful to the car. Since there was NO MENTION HOW TO USE LC IN THE MANUALS, why should you all presume that either my salesman or I had adequate information to know how to use LC. We may not be as sophisticated as some of you all are, but why should you presume that everyone who buys the car has special knowledge or experience. You all are guessing on the parameters of using LC, from your own experiences, but none of you know for sure. Some of you call me stupid, but I used to run a 442 Olds in the 60's and a Grand National in the 80's - thousands of 'launches', many on the drag strip with slicks, and I NEVER BROKE A TRANSMISSION.
2. I did do research before buying the car. I read the magazines and watched the videos, all of them demonstrating LC. None of them warned of the dangers; NONE OF THEM TOLD ME NOT TO USE LC. Nissan did not disclose LC was just a testing gimmick for journalists to be able to report their fantastic performance figures. Rather I listened to John Weiner in the Jay Leno video, and he offered LC as a feature on the car: He said, "PERFECT LAUNCHES EVERY TIME YOU DO IT".
3. In reality - as I learned only after reading septskyline's October 4th post - the transmission isn't strong enough to take many launches, and it may have glaring design flaws. Nissan probably never meant LC for use by the consumer, and now is just trying to cover its ass to avoid to warranty claims. If they never meant it for me to use, it should have not been advertised so vigorously, and it should not have been a feature in the car. So in my thread, "NISSAN: DO YOU WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM?", I outlined some positive things Nissan could do. I got help on those suggestions from other forum members.
3. Whether some of you approve or not, I did buy the car for its launch control. If that seems like a narrow parameter to some of you, well so be it. I am not a road racer. I am interested in 0-60 acceleration and 1/4 mile runs, that's all, and the magazines were all generous with that kind of information for me. There are others on this forum who feel as I do.
4. Without LC, one cannot duplicate the 3.5 sec claim from Nissan. If any of you think you can without LC, come on over and prove it to me, driving my bone-stock GT-R on 91 octane, not some super-tuned version with extra sticky tires and better fuel - that Nissan may have used for its testing. I hear that Nissan recently told my salesman that the 3.5 second 0-60 time claim was without LC! Do any of you seriously believe that?
5. So for me, the acceleration claims were paramount to my decision to buy the car. Without LC, I cannot duplicate them. Take away LC or make it a painful 20k when I break the transmission, and the car isn't for me.
6. I was lured in by deceptive advertising and perhaps not having the sophistication that all you say I needed. But don't berate me for that - that's the way it is. It's Nissan's job to provide adequate information for a stock feature like LC, available for use on every 2009 GT-R. Tell me how to use it, tell me how not to use it, and tell me in sufficient detail.
7. I was not given the GT-R disclosure to sign. Even had I signed it, it did not refer to LC. Make it plain English for 'stupid people' - "USE LAUNCH CONTROL AT YOUR OWN RISK. WHEN YOU USE LC, YOU HAVE TO TURN YOUR VDC OFF AND THAT MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, IF YOU BREAK SOMETHING".
Edited by robharr61, 11 October 2008 - 02:09 PM.