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I tend to think these mag articles are a lot like forum posters. You hear a couple of comments from someone popular and you suddenly mimic the same position.
Its tragic to me that folks in the press are taken so easily to tow the party line. Forget what other people have already written, set aside the bias and experience the car like a 5 year old on his first roller coaster. Let it be what it is, instead of what other people have already told you to expect.
 

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And we don't think at ALL that sponsors have anything to do with this...

Playstation, blah, blah, blah, tired 3-yr old comments, blah, blah, blah, the GT-R is too busy going fast to hear your useless crap, etc...
 

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They probably drove a Z06 at like 40% potential got it a little sideways and they all deemed it "exciting", but in reality if they were to actually drive it they would probably suck.
 

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Interesting read. While I don't deny there is not one perfect vehicle, I must say the GT-R is one of the best, especially at this price range.

Another interesting point: if memory serves me correct, I believed Automobile mag did a review on the MY09 and named it car of the year?!
 

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Nissan should apologize for putting all the electronic and mechanical wizardry onto this car that make it so stupidly fast and easy to drive.
 

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My analysis:

Phil Floraday is a die-hard Porsche guy, they're programmed to dislike anything not Porsche (ok, bit extreme but most often true). That said I understand (to a degree) his point of "there's still less driver involvement and tactile feedback in a GT-R than any of its competitors." Don't agree on the bucket of bolts Cheby Vette he examples with, but certain Porsches I can agree with this on. In fact this Spring I was considering (discussed it on here) trading in the GTR and getting an '09 997.2 S Cab w/PDK. My complaints are similar to Phil but only as a street car I find the GTR lacks some excitement, feedback and overall visceral feel. Where I part with Phil is when you can safely open it up the car transforms into a much more exciting machine. These times are few and far between as a street car unfortunately.

My quest for a 911C2S met failure simply as there is so little used inventory out there because their sales were down so much for the last few years (porsche even started a 2-year lease program to try to get used cars into the dealerships to help booster poor used car sales revenue and sell more new 911's). The other things that turned me off are the front steering wheel buttons instead of paddles for the PDK or you can spend $1200 for a new steering wheel with paddles on the wheel and not the column (annoying placement IMO). Then they put a kickdown button at the bottom of the gas pedal reminiscent of torque-converter automatics before fly-by-wire. It's annoying, you're in manual mode and you may want to dive into that throttle in say 3rd gear and not downshift, but if you touch that button it overrides you and drops gears. Then there is the undisputable fact that the car is much slower than the GTR, public road concerns notwithstanding, sometimes you just want to have that power to punch it on the highway. Having owned the GTR this long I don't think I could give it up for such a large drop in sheer power.

Perfect for me is the 458 Italia. I have had the pleasure of being able to drive one a bit this summer as my retired father with lots of savings bought himself one, and is nice enough to let me borrow it. It's the near perfect sports car in my opinion: the steering feedback, awesome soundtrack, sexy looks, engine, engine, engine, and best dual clutch box in existence. All that said it costs almost 4x what I paid for my GTR in '08, certainly a number I don't find myself anywhere near comfortable putting up that kind of coin for a toy. So to summarize my rant what im saying is it's no where as easy to find that true competitor to the GTR at the similar price as Automobile Mag makes it out to be. I want everything the Italia gives you but for under 100k, but that's not going to happen. So you have to make compromises, and so far I can't find a car with more of my desired check-boxes marked than the GTR for the price.
 

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That wasn't a review at all in any sense. He drove it for a half hour to and fro work. More of a dbag who wants to trash talk about the car.
 

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Probably the dumbest shit I've read about the car so far.

If you think the GT-R is numb, I want to see the shinebox you drive on a daily basis.
 

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Why is the Art Director complaining about the "driver aids" of the GT-R? He drove it for like 30 minutes back and fourth from work.... he just decided to follow the group. He needs to stop "reviewing" cars and go back to riding his pink vespa scooter
 

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Nissan should apologize for putting all the electronic and mechanical wizardry onto this car that make it so stupidly fast and easy to drive.
can't wait to see what the automotive press (especially the American rags) have to say when the 2013 Viper hits the streets. They'll probably be all giddy and nothing but praise despite the fact it will be getting an overdose of electronic aids to help it stay competitive with more technologically advanced cars like the GT-R
 

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OMG, that is the most wilfully ignorant collection of "reviews" I have ever had the misfortune to read.

They lost me at "Playstation". Anybody even mentioning Playstation should be hung, drawn and quartered, or at least shot.
For so-called professional automotive journalists to do so is lazy and cliched beyond belief.

All this talk of "computers that do everything for you" is also so tiresome it makes me nauseous. If that bothers you, try turning the damn VDC off then! That's what I do when I want to have some fun and at least the GT-R allows you to, unlike many European performance cars.
Even with VDC on, the R35 is actually less a slave to electronic interference than, say, the press's beloved 458 Italia (a car I would have over a GT-R in a heartbeat BTW), 911 Turbo, Mitsubishi Evo, or indeed, my old Skyline R33 GT-R V-spec which had an active rear diff.

Utter drivel, which I'm afraid to say, virtually all US auto writers are prone to.
 

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^ +1 ...lolz
 
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