[GTRjoe1]

Looking to replace the stock pads for moderate but frequent track use, but use the same pads in daily driving.
Anyone know of any aftermarket pads yet for the 2012?

Specifically, anyone tried the StopTech Performance pad on a 2012?

Thanks
Joe

 

[MC]

the pads for the 2012 are unchanged from previous years

 

[Yellow Stealth]

the pads for the 2012 are unchanged from previous years

They are the same size? If so, then what would be the point of the larger front rotors on the 2012?

 

[MC]

They are the same size? If so, then what would be the point of the larger front rotors on the 2012?

yeah they are the same size... the rotors increase is said to be for cooling purposes and extended life

when i found out they were the same pad.....i bought a set of super cheap OEM pads with under 1K miles on them off a 2010... they are just waiting to be swapped on my car when i need them.. will probably be a while...but im still saving alot of $ in the long run

 

[seanm]

Looking to replace the stock pads for moderate but frequent track use, but use the same pads in daily driving.
Anyone know of any aftermarket pads yet for the 2012?

2012 brake pad shape is exactly the same as the 2009-2011.

There is no real good one trick pony when it comes to brake pads. A street pad is good on the street. A race pad is good on the race track.

When you talk about brake pads, you talk about temperature ranges. They all operate well within a certain range. Outside of this range, they don't produce much friction. Outside of their temperature range, brake pads normally wear very rapidly.

The best bet is to swap street pads for race pads at the track if you are serious. Do a good bed on the pads each time and go. Not always realistic, not what most guys want to hear.

If you run a race pad on the street, its going to be noisy, often times not have good grip cold, or be very abrasive to the disk. The street pads overheat and pad fade on the track. It all gets down to temperature and temperature control. The harder you drive with a heavier car like a GT-R the more heat you put into the brakes.

Here is a chart from Ferodo showing the Mu of their pads, both street and race compounds vs temperature.
http://www.stillen.c...SSAN&model=GT-R

 

[shawnhayes]

If you run a race pad on the street, its going to be noisy, often times not have good grip cold, or be very abrasive to the disk. The street pads overheat and pad fade on the track.

Unless you have CCM's.

Shawn

 

[seanm]

Unless you have CCM's.

I thought that I was the one trying to sell those things? Speaking of CCM's. When we get them all sorted for the 2012 DSPORT GT-R, they are going to run some testing with them.

There are some guys that run race pads on the street here. Not exactly sure how I feel about that.

I have an advance copy of their new car issue, and its got some great analysis and data from their several day track event. Real weights, corner weights, 0-60 mph, 60 foot, 1/4 mile, cornering G's. Tons of information. I don't think the issue is out for another month though.

 

[shawnhayes]

I thought that I was the one trying to sell those things? Speaking of CCM's. When we get them all sorted for the 2012 DSPORT GT-R, they are going to run some testing with them.

There are some guys that run race pads on the street here. Not exactly sure how I feel about that.

I have an advance copy of their new car issue, and its got some great analysis and data from their several day track event. Real weights, corner weights, 0-60 mph, 60 foot, 1/4 mile, cornering G's. Tons of information. I don't think the issue is out for another month though.

"threadjack"

They ARE a solution for multiple issues for a GT-R, though.

Which pad for street? Which pad for track? - problem solved - don't change, same for both.

"screeching noise" - solved.

Frequent rotor replacements - solved.

Warped rotors? - solved.

Heavy weight of rotating mass - improved.

Cracked rotors due to heat issues - solved.

There are other issues on the table, but this solved a lot of them.

Shawn

 

[seanm]

The anti rattle hardware is coming from the UK. Addressing one noise the CCM's make.

 

[descartesfool]

I run Hawk DTC-60's or DTC-70's on the street and track. Works great for both. Never, ever had an issue with lack of friction on stone cold brakes on the street with these race pads. And they are phenomenal on the track, having just finished two days at Mosport, two days at the Glen and a half day at Calabogie. Pads need replacing, but I never bother to change them for street pads on the street. Then again I rarely drive more than 2000 kms between any track event, and I always bed the brakes on the way to the track. They squeak just a little bit, sometimes on the street. Perfect pad for me, and I run them on two other cars as well, street and track.

I buy lots and lots of pads. When I had some sent via FedEx to the Seneca Lodge, lady at the check-in counter who handed me the box said: "I know what these are, brake pads" My wife said "how do you know?", to which she replied, "from the feel and size of the package, as I have seen many same size and weight ones for my husband, who drives on track a lot" My secret was out, as was he husband's.

 

[seanm]

d: "I know what these are, brake pads" My wife said "how do you know?", to which she replied, "from the feel and size of the package, as I have seen many same size and weight ones for my husband, who drives on track a lot" My secret was out, as was he husband's.

The GT-R front brake pads, are kind of like clown shoes though. Huge things. Every time I pick up a set, I think that my hands got smaller. Almost feels like I am looking at them through a distortion lens. The rear GT-R brake pad is a normal F40 style size, which I am normally used to using for a front brake pad.

 

[shawnhayes]

The GT-R front brake pads, are kind of like clown shoes though. Huge things. Every time I pick up a set, I think that my hands got smaller. Almost feels like I am looking at them threw a distortion lens. The rear GT-R brake pad is a normal F40 style size, which I am normally used to using for a front brake pad.

My favorite trick is to hold one of the Carbotech boxes (deceptively small), or one of the Hawk boxes (also small) to somebody with front GT-R pads in them. I hold them in one carefully outstretched hand, and ask them to hold them for me.

The results are often quite funny. They ARE monsters.

Shawn