I currently have both too and have gone to the track many times over the past 3 years. I think your differentials are little skewed. Most stock CTS-V's trap between 115-118mph (a handful as high as 120mph in -DA). I don't see too many bone stock '09 GT-Rs trapping 5+mph higher (between 120-123mph). The GT-R is such a consistent car because of the the transmission and the AWD. CTS-V's are all over the place because of the choices in transmission and the RWD. I also think the DA has a greater impact on the CTS-V.Having owned both, I can tell you that it really is no contest.
Stock 2009-2011 will trap 5mph +, and 8 tenths or so on a stock CTSV.
Stock 2012? 8+ and well over 1 second.
That's real world.
Start modifying, and it's even more to the GTR's advantage, mod per mod.
Consistency goes in the GTR's favor, as well as fit and finish, driving feel, etc. Only thing in the V's favor is comfort, and of course price. You also have to remember that one is a sports car, and the other a sedan.
I never said this is a proper race.... It is not a race. It's more like a rape! LOLSkyliner, on 21 October 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:
A proper race requires that we must know how much horsepower each car outputs, before it happens.
What happen it has to be similar Hp to race? This is not proper race, you don't know how much HP each car outputs before the race.
My CTS-V ran 12.3 @ 114. That was in 1800 DA, icing the intercooler, everything I could do to hit a good pass. After the first run, and without ice, traps were 113.I currently have both too and have gone to the track many times over the past 3 years. I think your differentials are little skewed. Most stock CTS-V's trap between 115-118mph (a handful as high as 120mph in -DA). I don't see too many bone stock '09 GT-Rs trapping 5+mph higher (between 120-123mph). The GT-R is such a consistent car because of the the transmission and the AWD. CTS-V's are all over the place because of the choices in transmission and the RWD. I also think the DA has a greater impact on the CTS-V.
Tom
I know you are not hating on the V. I also know you posted in the Caddy forums...so I am kind of surprised that you are being "selective" in your comments. The attached list contains both modded and stock CTS-V 1/4 mile times. This isn't a complete list, just a sample based on members who asked to be added to the list (including your posted run). If you go to dragtimes there are also some more 1/4 miles times for the CTS-V. Unless you are suggesting some of those cars are not stock..My CTS-V ran 12.3 @ 114. That was in 1800 DA, icing the intercooler, everything I could do to hit a good pass. After the first run, and without ice, traps were 113.
Same track, same DA, BOTH of my stock 2010 GTR's were hitting 119-120. At least 5 mph.
Maybe it's true that DA affects the V more, I really can't say, but to say stock V's usually trap 115-118 is IMHO not true. Only with the help of some really good DA. And if we go by that, I can point to a stock 2010 GTR that has hit 123. Again, 5+ MPH.
I am not trying to bash the V here, just trying to be real. If you don't believe the results, I gladly invite any BONE STOCK V to meet me at PBIR, so we can see the results 1st hand. we'll run both lanes, and compare traps only, same day, same lane. I'l even throw it in auto mode, LC2 with no tricks. If I am proven wrong, I will gladly admit it.
Friday night, I was at PBIR with 4 GTR's and a member of the CTS-V forums in his tune and pully sedan on DR's. The night was crappy, the worst traction ever, but even without the traction issue, I was pulling him in my BONE STOCK 2010 GTR. You don't even want to know by how much. And BTW, he has one of the fastest, if not the fastest tune and pully V ...
Again not to be hating, I bought a V, so I had to like it at least a little. It is a ballsy sedan. Just saying it like I see it ..
I'd also like to know this. Those wheels look sick!Anyone know what wheels are on the GTR?
That is all great...maybe I am a little dense and inexperienced reading timeslips (I guess I haven't figured it out in the 10+ years going to the strip) but there are 4 runs above showing trap speeds of 118+mph for bone stock CTS-Vs and another 119+mph on dragtimes. Sorry, a stock '09-'11 GT-R is not going to trap 123+mph. And yes, trap speed is a good indication of how a car performs on a roll-on. Just because you had a fast car...doesn't make it ok to be condescending...Yeah, I did just go to the V forums and look at that list. I also just read a post where a member hit 117 in -600 DA.
I still stand by my previous statement. If one looks at the list without a critical eye and experience, one might think the two cars are closer. But, I do not. I believe my current 2010 will hit 122, or close to it in -600 DA, a 5 mph difference over the poster I just mentioned. Also, trap speeds at different tracks with different condiitions and different calibrations, etc will differ. Trap speeds are not the end all, unless it is a same day, same lane, same approx time comparison. Then, and only then, do they represent the best data.
What I am basing most of my conclusion on is how both of my cars did on the same track in the same DA. That is the best data I have so far, and I see a 5 mph difference. I have to assume, that across the board, outliers excluded, that that is the norm. This comparison was done keeping in mind lane differences, run averages, etc. And my Stock V posted a good stock Dynojet 470 + whp.
To back up my original position, I was pulling on LitiGator, also on that list, in my bone stock 2010. Ask him if U like..
Re-reading my posts, I may have come off a bit strong, but I am just saying it like I see it. No need to sugar coat it.
I would like to meet a stock V at the track, for some friendly runs to see what the true difference is. I of course believe that I am correct, and until proven otherwise, I will continue along that train of thought..
Not being condescending at all. Just saying it like I see it. Seem as though you are being a bit passive-aggressive though .. Don't need to get all pissyThat is all great...maybe I am a little dense and inexperienced reading timeslips (I guess I haven't figured it out in the 10+ years going to the strip) but there are 4 runs above showing trap speeds of 118+mph for bone stock CTS-Vs and another 119+mph on dragtimes. Sorry, a stock '09-'11 GT-R is not going to trap 123+mph. And yes, trap speed is a good indication of how a car performs on a roll-on. Just because you had a fast car...doesn't make it ok to be condescending...
Tom