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my GTR has been my daily driver since early 2020, it has gone from bone stock to FBO to upgraded turbos, the journey has been fun. i do think i will keep it in storage when i do eventually move on to another daily driver. this was a pinnacle car for me so i don’t foresee myself selling it.
 
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Im in the same boat only have time to drive it once a week
Exactly my point. But while I only need to drive my GT-R once or twice a week, I suppose I could take her out more often just because. But in my personal opinion it wouldn't feel as special. I remember that clearly with my first GT-R ('09), which was a DD for the first year-and-a-half I owned her. But once I bought a second car for my DD needs, then on that once or twice a week I did drive my GT-R I really looked forward to it a lot more. Again, it's all personal preference, no right or wrong.
 
I enjoy modding cars and so I’ve put a lot of time and effort into each of them. Because of that, they are essentially irreplaceable. Now that I know my son is a car guy, he’ll inherit whichever ones he wants when I can no longer drive. Before that, I would have wanted one of my car friends to have each of my cars. For people who don’t look at cars the same way as I do, they are just money. However for me, cars are a passion and I have invested my own blood, sweat, and tears. I will never sell my GTR’s.
 
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I enjoy modding cars and so I’ve put a lot of time and effort into each of them. Because of that, they are essentially irreplaceable. Now that I know my son is a car guy, he’ll inherit whichever ones he wants when I can no longer drive. Before that, I would have wanted one of my car friends to have each of my cars. For people who don’t look at cars the same way as I do, they are just money. However for me, cars are a passion and I have invested my own blood, sweat, and tears. I will never sell my GTR’s.
You are a loyal and dedicated GT-R owner, much more than myself, who is now on his third GT-R. But I keep coming back, right? I like what you said about your son being a car guy, as my son has also turned into one, and if I hang onto my '24, it'll probably go to him someday. I also related to your comment about people who don't look at cars the same way we do, being just money. Or as I like to say, for utilitarian purposes only. And I've even seen some people with this mindset buying more premium makes and models, say, MB or BMW, and after a year they are already pockmarked with door dings, scratches, and dents. They don't care, they will just whip the vehicle into a spot any which way and could care less what happens to it.
By the way, I just noticed both of us have been on this board since late 2008!
 
Given that I just bought might mine a couple months ago, just the ownership alone of a GTR has been more exciting than any car I've owned. I've had many exotics, and did what some consider a "downgrade," but I'll take a GTR as a downgrade any day! This car isn't going anywhere. I'll build more garage space before selling lol
 
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Given that I just bought might mine a couple months ago, just the ownership alone of a GTR has been more exciting than any car I've owned. I've had many exotics, and did what some consider a "downgrade," but I'll take a GTR as a downgrade any day! This car isn't going anywhere. I'll build more garage space before selling lol
A downgrade in what sense, in terms of "pedigree", exotic vs GT-R? Performance wise I wouldn't think it would be a downgrade, and in some instances it would be an upgrade. I've never been able to afford an exotic car, though I've dreamed of owning a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and the closest I've come is a Maserati and Lotus. But I'm on my third GT-R and there are very few cars that have surpassed its performance. And I love the fact that it's one of few cars overall I see on the streets most seldomly.
 
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It's more just people's perception and level of class which I don't care for anyways. I think it's an upgrade all around because it's my dream car. In my line of work I flip everything from BMWs to Ferrari and had many opportunities to drive various cars regularly, so for most it seems silly not wanting a high end car when it's available but I could never pull the trigger, maintenance bills can be crazy expensive for the simplest things and most require a dealership (that are usually a couple hours drive from me) to repair.
When I was buying my R35 for one, it was between the 2020 Premium and an older Huracan I had been driving around for a couple weeks so that alone people didn't understand why I wouldn't want a Lambo over a "Nissan". Secondly, I came from a 2015 V12 DB9, which gave that "why would you ever get rid of a V12 for a Nissan." Same sort of perception from others, but I had my fun with it and when you drive cars like 911s, F8s, Huracans, etc, they sort of kill the experience on some cars in a way. The sound at the end of the day was the only thing keeping it attractive to me after a while.
Do I miss the growl, sometimes, but at the end of the day the DB9 was heavy, fun but not a performance car, and let's face it, a bit of an old mans car lol I'm 37.
 
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It's more just people's perception and level of class which I don't care for anyways. I think it's an upgrade all around because it's my dream car. In my line of work I flip everything from BMWs to Ferrari and had many opportunities to drive various cars regularly, so for most it seems silly not wanting a high end car when it's available but I could never pull the trigger, maintenance bills can be crazy expensive for the simplest things and most require a dealership (that are usually a couple hours drive from me) to repair.
When I was buying my R35 for one, it was between the 2020 Premium and an older Huracan I had been driving around for a couple weeks so that alone people didn't understand why I wouldn't want a Lambo over a "Nissan". Secondly, I came from a 2015 V12 DB9, which gave that "why would you ever get rid of a V12 for a Nissan." Same sort of perception from others, but I had my fun with it and when you drive cars like 911s, F8s, Huracans, etc, they sort of kill the experience on some cars in a way. The sound at the end of the day was the only thing keeping it attractive to me after a while.
Do I miss the growl, sometimes, but at the end of the day the DB9 was heavy, fun but not a performance car, and let's face it, a bit of an old mans car lol I'm 37.
Thanks for taking time to elaborate on your exotic and higher end car ownership experiences, against a GT-R. And yes, I agree that often it is a general perception among a lot of people regarding exotic cars. And within that group of owners, some take a snobbish attitude to the "lesser relations" car brands. And I've experienced that a couple of times, where some exotic car owner looked down on my previously owned GT-R's as interlopers into their little boys expensive car club. And I even saw some of that from the general public, when I owned a Lotus Evora 400 and Maserati Granturismo. I guess those two cars could be considered pseudo exotic, although not full pedigreed Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

To your point about maintenance on an exotic car, that's exactly why I haven't bought one. I could afford to buy a used one but not the service on it. And yes to the Aston Martin DB9 being an "old man's car", ha-ha. I am almost 67 and live in Florida so I see that, along with the many, many Porsches and Corvettes here. But I guess I don't really fit that mold, because I own a GT-R, and before that was an Audi RS3, C8 Stingray (okay, for NB wearing older guys but I don't own a pair!), the Lotus and Maserati, Jag XF RS. Going way back, my very first legitimate performance car was an '86 Buick Grand National. I didn't own a car until I was 20, as a young airman stationed in the Philippines. It was '78 and I paid $400 for a Rambler American. The better cars came along after I retired from the military and better pay as a contractor.

I love my '24 GT-R but I'm starti.ng to plan to possibly buy a C8 E-Ray in another year or two. I set my sights higher on a ZR1, but even being on a waiting list with MM, that would be years away. Plus the lowest list price would be $175K, and that's only if the car was sold to you MSRP. So far MM has done that but I'm not sure about the ZR1. I already heard from them and they said their first allocations are going to their former ZR1 owners and those who have purchased multiple Corvettes from them. That's why I'm looking at an E-Ray now. Like the GT-R, both have way more performance than I could ever get close to reaching. Imagine the 1,064 HP, 233 mph ZR1? Good for arm chair racing and bragging rights I suppose.
 
Thanks for taking time to elaborate on your exotic and higher end car ownership experiences, against a GT-R. And yes, I agree that often it is a general perception among a lot of people regarding exotic cars. And within that group of owners, some take a snobbish attitude to the "lesser relations" car brands. And I've experienced that a couple of times, where some exotic car owner looked down on my previously owned GT-R's as interlopers into their little boys expensive car club. And I even saw some of that from the general public, when I owned a Lotus Evora 400 and Maserati Granturismo. I guess those two cars could be considered pseudo exotic, although not full pedigreed Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

To your point about maintenance on an exotic car, that's exactly why I haven't bought one. I could afford to buy a used one but not the service on it. And yes to the Aston Martin DB9 being an "old man's car", ha-ha. I am almost 67 and live in Florida so I see that, along with the many, many Porsches and Corvettes here. But I guess I don't really fit that mold, because I own a GT-R, and before that was an Audi RS3, C8 Stingray (okay, for NB wearing older guys but I don't own a pair!), the Lotus and Maserati, Jag XF RS. Going way back, my very first legitimate performance car was an '86 Buick Grand National. I didn't own a car until I was 20, as a young airman stationed in the Philippines. It was '78 and I paid $400 for a Rambler American. The better cars came along after I retired from the military and better pay as a contractor.

I love my '24 GT-R but I'm starti.ng to plan to possibly buy a C8 E-Ray in another year or two. I set my sights higher on a ZR1, but even being on a waiting list with MM, that would be years away. Plus the lowest list price would be $175K, and that's only if the car was sold to you MSRP. So far MM has done that but I'm not sure about the ZR1. I already heard from them and they said their first allocations are going to their former ZR1 owners and those who have purchased multiple Corvettes from them. That's why I'm looking at an E-Ray now. Like the GT-R, both have way more performance than I could ever get close to reaching. Imagine the 1,064 HP, 233 mph ZR1? Good for arm chair racing and bragging rights I suppose.
You certainly have had quite the extensive lineup, more than most can dream of so well done!

The C8s are great cars, and hold onto you're GTR long enough now and you might even be able to just trade keys when you decide to upgrade lol

Tough decision!
 
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You certainly have had quite the extensive lineup, more than most can dream of so well done!

The C8s are great cars, and hold onto you're GTR long enough now and you might even be able to just trade keys when you decide to upgrade lol

Tough decision!
I've been through periods where I've held onto some cars far too short a period of time. So I do hope I'll hang onto my '24 GT-R for the long haul, and maybe only let it go to give it to my son. In the meantime I'm looking at the ZR1 and E-Ray to add a stablemate in my garage. I'm having more and more doubts that I'll be able to acquire a ZR1, muchj less be able to afford one, but we'll see how that plays out. That's why I'm considering an E-Ray. Both Corvettes, like the GT-R, offer much more performance than I'll ever tap into, but each appeal to me in different ways.
 
Just listed mine for sale. I haven't experienced enough vehicles to make a definitive decision. Thinking about a 911 or Evora, we'll see if I regret it... Anyone else make the jump to or from a 911 or Evora and what's your feedback?
 
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Just listed mine for sale. I haven't experienced enough vehicles to make a definitive decision. Thinking about a 911 or Evora, we'll see if I regret it... Anyone else make the jump to or from a 911 or Evora and what's your feedback?
What year is your GT-R that you are selling, how long you've owned it, any mods, and why you are selling, if you don't mind sharing? As for a 911 or Evora, I won't get into the whole Porsche thing, because I've never owned one, but also due to never really having Porsches appeal to me. There is no disputing their performance and handling, but it has never been a car I've spent much time in researching because I had to have one. Now, if I somehow inherited a 911 Turbo S or came across a deal on one that I just couldn't pass up, I'm sure I'd be loving it.

As for a Lotus Evora, I did briefly own a '17 Evora 400, and it was a very nice sports car, in fact, I should have held onto it. It certainly wasn't anywhere near the quickest or fastest of cars I've owned, but it handled like a dream, I loved it's pseudo exotic looks, and like the GT-R, a car you just didn't see on the streets very often. I've seen their latest model, the Emira, and feel it is a very sharp looking sports car. But going from a car such as the GT-R, which can hit 0-60 in less than three seconds and the quarter in 11 seconds flat, and a top speed of over 190 mph, I'd personally be disappointed going from that to the Evora's acceleration of four tics or so 0-60 and the quarter in 12 and a half tics. Top end I believe the Evora could eventually reach up to 180 mph. But before anyone has an aneurysm and blasts me to basing my personal impressions on acceleration data alone, and instead enjoying the sublime handling of a car like the Emira, I say, if that floats your boat, more power to you. It's whatever you prefer. Different strokes for different folks.
 
What year is your GT-R that you are selling, how long you've owned it, any mods, and why you are selling, if you don't mind sharing? As for a 911 or Evora, I won't get into the whole Porsche thing, because I've never owned one, but also due to never really having Porsches appeal to me. There is no disputing their performance and handling, but it has never been a car I've spent much time in researching because I had to have one. Now, if I somehow inherited a 911 Turbo S or came across a deal on one that I just couldn't pass up, I'm sure I'd be loving it.

As for a Lotus Evora, I did briefly own a '17 Evora 400, and it was a very nice sports car, in fact, I should have held onto it. It certainly wasn't anywhere near the quickest or fastest of cars I've owned, but it handled like a dream, I loved it's pseudo exotic looks, and like the GT-R, a car you just didn't see on the streets very often. I've seen their latest model, the Emira, and feel it is a very sharp looking sports car. But going from a car such as the GT-R, which can hit 0-60 in less than three seconds and the quarter in 11 seconds flat, and a top speed of over 190 mph, I'd personally be disappointed going from that to the Evora's acceleration of four tics or so 0-60 and the quarter in 12 and a half tics. Top end I believe the Evora could eventually reach up to 180 mph. But before anyone has an aneurysm and blasts me to basing my personal impressions on acceleration data alone, and instead enjoying the sublime handling of a car like the Emira, I say, if that floats your boat, more power to you. It's whatever you prefer. Different strokes for different folks.
You mention the Lotus Emira. I am flying to Houston tomorrow to look at one and probably drive it home, Getting rid of my 2016 Nismo and replacing it with an Emira (is the plan anyway). Keeping my 2014 Track Edition tho). So I will have two quite different cars.
 
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You mention the Lotus Emira. I am flying to Houston tomorrow to look at one and probably drive it home, Getting rid of my 2016 Nismo and replacing it with an Emira (is the plan anyway). Keeping my 2014 Track Edition tho). So I will have two quite different cars.
Before I bought my '24 GT-R and when I was debating on getting on an E-Ray list, the Emira was on my short list. I would choose it with Hethel Yellow and the black pack, gloss black wheels, yellow calipers, and red interior. Hmm, now do I still want that E-Ray or the Emira?! :p
 
What year is your GT-R that you are selling, how long you've owned it, any mods, and why you are selling, if you don't mind sharing? As for a 911 or Evora, I won't get into the whole Porsche thing, because I've never owned one, but also due to never really having Porsches appeal to me. There is no disputing their performance and handling, but it has never been a car I've spent much time in researching because I had to have one. Now, if I somehow inherited a 911 Turbo S or came across a deal on one that I just couldn't pass up, I'm sure I'd be loving it.

As for a Lotus Evora, I did briefly own a '17 Evora 400, and it was a very nice sports car, in fact, I should have held onto it. It certainly wasn't anywhere near the quickest or fastest of cars I've owned, but it handled like a dream, I loved it's pseudo exotic looks, and like the GT-R, a car you just didn't see on the streets very often. I've seen their latest model, the Emira, and feel it is a very sharp looking sports car. But going from a car such as the GT-R, which can hit 0-60 in less than three seconds and the quarter in 11 seconds flat, and a top speed of over 190 mph, I'd personally be disappointed going from that to the Evora's acceleration of four tics or so 0-60 and the quarter in 12 and a half tics. Top end I believe the Evora could eventually reach up to 180 mph. But before anyone has an aneurysm and blasts me to basing my personal impressions on acceleration data alone, and instead enjoying the sublime handling of a car like the Emira, I say, if that floats your boat, more power to you. It's whatever you prefer. Different strokes for different folks.
I have a 2012 DBP Premium pretty basic set up. 3" intakes, catless midpipe, HKS exhaust, Shep 1.5 trans. It's quick enough I just tend to get bored after a while.

Yes I'm sure the Evora will feel a lot slower than the GTR I just hope it makes up for it in driving experience. Mainly looking at the Evora 400 or GT. If I got a 911 it would have to be a 997 turbo manual or a very well spec'd 997 C2S manual. Who knows though I usually gravitate towards good deals which could mean any vehicle is next :LOL:
 
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I have a 2012 DBP Premium pretty basic set up. 3" intakes, catless midpipe, HKS exhaust, Shep 1.5 trans. It's quick enough I just tend to get bored after a while.

Yes I'm sure the Evora will feel a lot slower than the GTR I just hope it makes up for it in driving experience. Mainly looking at the Evora 400 or GT. If I got a 911 it would have to be a 997 turbo manual or a very well spec'd 997 C2S manual. Who knows though I usually gravitate towards good deals which could mean any vehicle is next :LOL:
Yeah, I can see as one moves up in power how at some point they can get used to it and even though it's a 10 second car, it no longer feels quick, lol. But it's not always about raw, neck snapping acceleration, is it? That is, unless the new toy isn't extremely slower than what you're used to. Regarding an Evora 400 or GT, what is the appeal to that over the newer Emira? Looking at raw acceleration and speed data, the Emira doesn't seem really any quicker or faster than the Evora 400 or GT. Subjectively it is better looking, and certainly the interior is a 100% improvement. The '17 Evora 400 I briefly owned, had what looked like a snap in head unit of unknown origin. Everything else in the cabin was rudimentary, but which fit into the original Lotus owner's philosophy of lightness. I think I read there was debate about having a cup holder in the Evora 400!
Whatever you get, I'm sure it will be something that appeals to your car emotional appeal. If you can't walk away from your ride without looking back at it after a few feet, it's just another in the sea of black, grey, dark blue BMW, Audi, and MB cars. Blah.
 
Yeah, I can see as one moves up in power how at some point they can get used to it and even though it's a 10 second car, it no longer feels quick, lol. But it's not always about raw, neck snapping acceleration, is it? That is, unless the new toy isn't extremely slower than what you're used to. Regarding an Evora 400 or GT, what is the appeal to that over the newer Emira? Looking at raw acceleration and speed data, the Emira doesn't seem really any quicker or faster than the Evora 400 or GT. Subjectively it is better looking, and certainly the interior is a 100% improvement. The '17 Evora 400 I briefly owned, had what looked like a snap in head unit of unknown origin. Everything else in the cabin was rudimentary, but which fit into the original Lotus owner's philosophy of lightness. I think I read there was debate about having a cup holder in the Evora 400!
Whatever you get, I'm sure it will be something that appeals to your car emotional appeal. If you can't walk away from your ride without looking back at it after a few feet, it's just another in the sea of black, grey, dark blue BMW, Audi, and MB cars. Blah.
I have 2 small boys that like to go on drives and car meets with me so I need the back seats that the Evora provides. If not for that I would have purchased a 2 seater car along time ago but I find it more enjoyable when they can share my hobby with me.

Who knows once the snow melts and the salt is cleaned off the roads here I might find a renewed passion for the GTR. This seems to happen every winter with every vehicle. It's not a priority or rush to sell.
 
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I have 2 small boys that like to go on drives and car meets with me so I need the back seats that the Evora provides. If not for that I would have purchased a 2 seater car along time ago but I find it more enjoyable when they can share my hobby with me.

Who knows once the snow melts and the salt is cleaned off the roads here I might find a renewed passion for the GTR. This seems to happen every winter with every vehicle. It's not a priority or rush to sell.
I'm on my third GT-R, and I'm sure there are several other GT-R owners that have owned more than one. We someone keep coming back to it (though some never left). As for the back seats, when I bought my then new '09 GT-R, my youngest son was five and I was the one dropping him off to school. Eventually he outgrew that and his head was getting too close to the rear windshield. I have had my wife, daughter, and son in that GT-R, and while cramped in the back (daughter would sit criss-cross style), son in his car seat, later booster seat, then my wife in the front passenger seat. And I could put all of our weekly groceries in the trunk, have AWD, a snow setting, and Winter tires for that season. It was the everyday car that could be driven anywhere, by anyone, or as Nissan stated back when the R35 first hit North America.
 
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