[houstonT]

As promised, a decision has been made to keep the drag race classes for TX2K16 the same as they were for TX2K15. After discussion amongst the GTR sponsors (T1R, Jotech, AMS, BoostLogic, Boulder Nissan, Induction Performance, SpeedByDesign, Switzer, GTR Heritage, ShepTrans, ExtremeTurboSystems, COBB, and a few others), the near unanimous decision was to keep things as they are. See you all in March!

GTR Class 1
Stock Turbo, OEM sized brakes, DOT radials. The intent here is to have a class for street GTRs with just bolt on parts running stock turbos.

GTR Class 2
OEM turbo manifold, OEM sized brakes, DOT radials, The intent here is to have a class for street GTRs with just bolt on parts running upgraded stock manifold turbos.

GTR Class 3
Modified turbo and manifold allowed, OEM sized brakes, DOT radial only. The intent here is to have a class for weekend warrior GTRs with all the bolt on upgrades including big turbo kits.

GTR Class 4
Modified turbo and manifold allowed, any sized brakes, any size and type of tire allowed. The intent here is for more purpose built straight line cars. Cars that have big turbos and/or small brakes belong here.

GTR Class 5
Class 5 is a new class called Shootout. This is an unregulated exhibition class (i.e. no rules / no bracket) for people who are simply there to put down the best ET and MPH they can. The intent here is to have a class for shop cars, big build and high profile cars that are out to set records without running a bracket with eliminations. AMS, English Racing / ETS, T1R, and Switzer will all have cars in this class. Furthermore, the GTR sponsors have allowed 2JZ application cars to compete in this class. Cars such as the VirtualWorks Racing Supra, the Titan Supra, the SRT IS300, etc...

 

[UnaBomber]

Awesome cant wait dude

 

[jimefam]

It's a shame you aren't allowing 17" slicks in class 2 and 3. Lots of broken driveline components on radials and lots of racers who may be leary of hurting there cars just to compete.

 

[PadrinoGTR]

Can i use Zr1 brakes in class 3?

Omar PadrinoGTR

 

[PadrinoGTR]

It's a shame you aren't allowing 17" slicks in class 2 and 3. Lots of broken driveline components on radials and lots of racers who may be leary of hurting there cars just to compete.

i agree

Omar PadrinoGTR

 

[VRAAAWR]

i agree

Omar PadrinoGTR

I'm with Padrino

 

[houstonT]

The rules are at the direction of all the sponsors, i'm open to a change but would need the sponsors mentioned above to weigh in, let me ask their thoughts.
Peter

 

[houstonT]

So long as they are OEM size....
Peter

Can i use Zr1 brakes in class 3?

Omar PadrinoGTR

 

[jimefam]

So long as they are OEM size....
Peter

They are not oem size but we are talking a few MM of difference. This is another rule that doesn't make much sense. If you want to keep 15" cars out of the class say 17s or bigger and let people use whatever brakes they feel like. Not for nothing Peter but the sponsors aren't really affected by car count but some of the way these rules are laid out make it so some cars who would be the main attraction for some of these classes can't even run how they have run their record breaking times. Slicks are easier on the car and more consistent which makes for better racing for everyone including spectators. According to the rules I can show up in class two with no exhaust or interior etc and that's fine but can't use slicks because it's not "street".

 

[Elganja]

It's a shame you aren't allowing 17" slicks in class 2 and 3. Lots of broken driveline components on radials and lots of racers who may be leary of hurting there cars just to compete.

agreed ... it's a shame, guess I'll keep my car to the streets of Texas instead of the event

I've broken so much stuff on drag radials it's just not worth it anymore

 

[houstonT]

All good points to consider, i'm open to discussing them...not that it matters but in reality the rules are there to set the tone for each class, if you were to show up with no exhaust, no interior, etc....that would defeat the purpose of the spirit of the classes. Truth is "street GTR's" don't run around with no exhaust and no interior, but technically you are correct in that you could run that class.

The wheel size and tire selection issues brought up are worth revisiting. I will do so and report back.

As for the carbon ceramic brakes, they fit in the spirit of the rules as they are almost identical in diameter to the OEM brakes, I forgot we discussed allowing them last year since they would not allow a smaller diameter wheel to fit (sorry about that slip jimefam). To clarify, those would be acceptable...

Peter
p.s. I guarantee you that no matter where we end up, we won't make everyone happy, doing our best to make the majority of participants happy...

They are not oem size but we are talking a few MM of difference. This is another rule that doesn't make much sense. If you want to keep 15" cars out of the class say 17s or bigger and let people use whatever brakes they feel like. Not for nothing Peter but the sponsors aren't really affected by car count but some of the way these rules are laid out make it so some cars who would be the main attraction for some of these classes can't even run how they have run their record breaking times. Slicks are easier on the car and more consistent which makes for better racing for everyone including spectators. According to the rules I can show up in class two with no exhaust or interior etc and that's fine but can't use slicks because it's not "street".

 

[PadrinoGTR]

I really hope you guys can find a work around so class 3 is allowed to use sliks. See you in Texas.

Omar PadrinoGTR

 

[crazyrc]

I strongly agree with differentiating classes between 15 and 17". Meaning allowing 17" slicks in the lower classes for no other reason than to reduce the chances of breakage. 15's in the top two classes maybe? I'm not too concerned because I'll be on a 17" slick regardless of what class I have to run, I just know I'll be heavily outgunned in those classes. I'm more interested in running a fast time. Placing well isn't huge deal to me. Looking forward to the event regardless of what you land on for rules. Cheers

 

[Mas280]

Keep class 3 with drag radials only. Not a fan of slicks. Just turn the power down in lower gears.

 

[jimefam]

Keep class 3 with drag radials only. Not a fan of slicks. Just turn the power down in lower gears.

You have to understand that 90% of the people coming to this event are coming to go "on kill" and want to run at a great track with great prep to get personal bests etc. No one wants to drive cross country and take off work for almost a week to come and run the car turned down so you don't break something lol. Plus like I said from an organizers point of view is that what you want for spectators? A bunch of turned down cars so they don't bust diffs and axles etc on the line? All I was saying to Peter was I understand the "spirit" of the rules but if you see the vast majority of the gtrs actually running consistently quick and living they are on slicks and that's not a coincidence. Definitely keep the separation from 17 to 15" to keep the "big dogs" out of class 3 but no reason to force people on a tire that's just going to lead to more downtime and track cleaning. But I applaud Peter for saying he will consider it because I think just by the replies in this thread you can see it will affect quite a few. Btw it doesn't matter to me I will be in class 4 on 15s just pointing out what I feel can and should be improved.

 

[UnaBomber]

Keep class 3 with drag radials only. Not a fan of slicks. Just turn the power down in lower gears.

You don't turn shit down I Texas

Only way to go us up up up

People build their cars for this event. To not be able to run 17 inch slicks in gtr3 would be a mistake

 

[JimA]

It's a shame you aren't allowing 17" slicks in class 2 and 3. Lots of broken driveline components on radials and lots of racers who may be leary of hurting there cars just to compete.

100% agree with this! not worth breaking drivetrain parts with Drag Radials, make it 17inch slicks no 15inch and you are set.

 

[audioenvy]

You have to understand that 90% of the people coming to this event are coming to go "on kill" and want to run at a great track with great prep to get personal bests etc. No one wants to drive cross country and take off work for almost a week to come and run the car turned down so you don't break something lol. Plus like I said from an organizers point of view is that what you want for spectators? A bunch of turned down cars so they don't bust diffs and axles etc on the line? All I was saying to Peter was I understand the "spirit" of the rules but if you see the vast majority of the gtrs actually running consistently quick and living they are on slicks and that's not a coincidence. Definitely keep the separation from 17 to 15" to keep the "big dogs" out of class 3 but no reason to force people on a tire that's just going to lead to more downtime and track cleaning. But I applaud Peter for saying he will consider it because I think just by the replies in this thread you can see it will affect quite a few. Btw it doesn't matter to me I will be in class 4 on 15s just pointing out what I feel can and should be improved.

^^^ this dude is smart so I agree!

 

[achenator]

I strongly agree with differentiating classes between 15 and 17". Meaning allowing 17" slicks in the lower classes for no other reason than to reduce the chances of breakage. 15's in the top two classes maybe? I'm not too concerned because I'll be on a 17" slick regardless of what class I have to run, I just know I'll be heavily outgunned in those classes. I'm more interested in running a fast time. Placing well isn't huge deal to me. Looking forward to the event regardless of what you land on for rules. Cheers

Ditto fa shizzo

 

[gtr2]

good that is the way it should be tune accordantly, the sponsors made the ruling . all these guys that are bitching just what to beat up or dominate a class, not drag racers. this kind of stuff has ruined more classes of drag racing ie true 10.5, ADRL, outlaw 10.5 w now the only thing that draws any cars is 275 drag radial go figure . people have built , worked on and planed on this all year . don't ruin it for many for so few I have been to the last 2 TX2Ks and I did not see all this carnage