I know this topic has been beaten dead but had to open a discussion. I have been a Porsche guy for years having owned a 993TT and 996TT. I bought the GTR and love it but am still drawn to the 997 turbo, specifically the 997.1TT. After considerable research there seems to be no performance comparison between the 2, especially in a high HP (750whp+) configuration. The GTR beats the 997.1 TT in the quarter mile and 60-130 times. That said, the handling of both seems about on par. I just wish Nissan would upgrade the interior.
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That's why you give Porsche $40K extra dollars
I will say I sold my brand new '11 911 Turbo S" and am picking up a '13 GTR instead. I had the privilege of having both on hand (new '12 GTR), literally switching from one to the other, for a two hour period. The TTS wasn't worth 65K more... I can live with the interior. What I don't like is the dealing with Nissan vs. Porsche dealerships, service depts, etc... Oh well...
I will say I sold my brand new '11 911 Turbo S" and am picking up a '13 GTR instead. I had the privilege of having both on hand (new '12 GTR), literally switching from one to the other, for a two hour period. The TTS wasn't worth 65K more... I can live with the interior. What I don't like is the dealing with Nissan vs. Porsche dealerships, service depts, etc... Oh well...Exactly
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I think a lot of this is dealership-dependent. I've never owned a Porsche and have never been to a Porsche dealership, so I can't comment there. But I can say that there are a couple of Nissan dealerships, Mossy Nissan Poway and Fontana Nissan, that treat GT-R owners like rock stars.
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GT-R without a doubt. It's the better car.
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Hum .... faster ? probably, more practical, better trunk, better price, best bang for the buck. Quality wise.... can't compare.
Just my 2 cents.
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I wouldn't give up one for the other, the lack of memory seats is really annoying on the GTR.
Why they skipped that is puzzling.
Why they skipped that is puzzling.
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Well said.
I love a good bargain and that's exactly what the GT-R is. As far as quality, the Pcar is much more refined that the Nissan in every aspect.
Fortunately for me, I'm more concerned with hauling ass and handling than aesthetics.
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Just got my 2010 GTr
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I'm curious. When you went in the dealership and said that you were interested in a GTR what happened? Did they go and get the Certified GTR salesman or did someone help you that wasn't that familiar? Most dealership Certified GTR Representatives are the Executive Managers, also known as the General Manager.
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This is, to some extent, the exact opposite of what a lot of others say (Jeremy Clarkson included). Why would you say that?
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It is dealership dependent and that's the problem. You really don't see these inconsistencies with Porsche dealerships. Heck I've called some around here and the person answering doesn't even know what a GTR is let alone who to send the call to. Then I have them send it to normal salesman and when asked if they were the sales manager replied their GM said it was alright to take the call. Nissan is not used to handling such a special product. It's like Taco Bell trying to properly serve a filet mignon along with everything expected to go along with the great steak. The other thing that concerns me around here is the lack of GTRs that have been sold and the dealerships ability to properly repair one. I'm going to jump on board regardless becasue the steak tastes so good, just will ignore the rest I guess and hope i don't get food poisoning We have an excellent Porsche dealership, none of the above applies.
The reason I've held out so long is so Nissan can get all of the bugs worked out. it really takes about 5-years to do this i think. With all of the known changes publicized each year you can bet there are other refinements made/upgraded that aren't mentioned in the sales brochure. Heck Porsche is quietly working on issues of carbon build up on their new DFI motors and unless you were a Porsche tech or parts guy you wouldn't have any idea the changes have even been made, falls under the "right to modify and/or change without further notification" claus. One thing for sure, you can bet a 997 will be running for a very long time if taken care of even if modified. The jury is out on the earlier GTR's, especially modded ones, once they start seeing 50K miles, etc... That being said, if I hadn't already had 3-997TT's, especially .1's, I wouldn't hesitate a minute to buy one again. There would be peace of mind. I wouldn't buy a used GTR at this point if you held a gun to my head...
We have an excellent Porsche dealership, none of the above applies.The reason I've held out so long is so Nissan can get all of the bugs worked out. it really takes about 5-years to do this i think. With all of the known changes publicized each year you can bet there are other refinements made/upgraded that aren't mentioned in the sales brochure. Heck Porsche is quietly working on issues of carbon build up on their new DFI motors and unless you were a Porsche tech or parts guy you wouldn't have any idea the changes have even been made, falls under the "right to modify and/or change without further notification" claus. One thing for sure, you can bet a 997 will be running for a very long time if taken care of even if modified. The jury is out on the earlier GTR's, especially modded ones, once they start seeing 50K miles, etc... That being said, if I hadn't already had 3-997TT's, especially .1's, I wouldn't hesitate a minute to buy one again. There would be peace of mind. I wouldn't buy a used GTR at this point if you held a gun to my head...
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Eh, Porsche always treated me right. I also have to say I never had issues with any type of warranty issue either. If it broke it was repaired no questions asked. They were well aware of the fact that I used mine for Porsche club track events, as well. Everyone I personally know had a similar experience. Even going so far as sending a tow truck out with an alternator belt to get the owner on the road again asap at no cost.
My GT-R hasn't had any problems but from what I have heard from the few people in the area that I have talked to. The dealership's ass puckers up the moment the word "warranty" is mentioned.
I just want to say that it's quite refreshing to see level headed GTR owners not bashing on porsche because of the price and performance difference (which become negligible when modding comes into the equation).
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Each car has their merits as the Porsche is definitely more refined than the GTR and also the transmission does not have a history of failures. The GTR on the other hand offers the ultimate bang for the buck and cutting edge tech. In the end, it comes down the preference. Most people who can afford a GTR can also afford a Porsche.
Threads like these make this community a great place to hang out.
Kudos to everyone and now, back to lurking.
Each car has their merits as the Porsche is definitely more refined than the GTR and also the transmission does not have a history of failures. The GTR on the other hand offers the ultimate bang for the buck and cutting edge tech. In the end, it comes down the preference. Most people who can afford a GTR can also afford a Porsche.
Threads like these make this community a great place to hang out.
Kudos to everyone and now, back to lurking.
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I'm well aware of the warranty issues people have had. I personally haven't had any problems with getting my evap cannister, steering column lock, instrument cluster and even my transmission replaced under warranty. I'm also painfully aware of the negative issues some on this board have had, especially as it relates to the transmission. I like the analogy mentioned above about a filet mignon being served at Taco Bell. Nissan has a lot to learn about not only making good on a car of this caliber, but also making good on the caliber of customers who purchase one of these cars.
One thing that might have helped is if it was branded as an Infiniti, as I understand their dealerships to be a bit more service-oriented towards their customers, but who knows?
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