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he killed osama man.....single handidly

you need to vote for him again

don't be unpatriotic
 

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We don't remember who created this mess do we?

Tsk tsk...8 years of waging wars on a global scale, pumping false money in the way of real estate loans into the economy, outsourcing all of our jobs, lying about employment numbers, giving away H1B's like they were Fords, and granting huge companies tax breaks..

And you blame Obama??

You could have put Perot, Greenspan, Bloomberg, Woolworth, Rockefeller, JR from "Dallas", and the Beverly HIllbillies in there after Bush and they wouldn't have been able to save the economy.

Quit wasting your time and money questioning your President's birthplace, his religion, and whatever other racist agenda's the Republicans push forward.

Wow.

That's my 2 cents.
 

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We don't remember who created this mess do we?

Tsk tsk...8 years of waging wars on a global scale, pumping false money in the way of real estate loans into the economy, outsourcing all of our jobs, lying about employment numbers, giving away H1B's like they were Fords, and granting huge companies tax breaks..

And you blame Obama??

You could have put Perot, Greenspan, Bloomberg, Woolworth, Rockefeller, JR from "Dallas", and the Beverly HIllbillies in there after Bush and they wouldn't have been able to save the economy.

Quit wasting your time and money questioning your President's birthplace, his religion, and whatever other racist agenda's the Republicans push forward.

Wow.

That's my 2 cents.
I could care way less where he is from just get the *ing job done.

Key issue he will be dealing with is the debacle of the BP oil spill and how he was MIA for sooooooooooooooooooooooooo long - take a look at that -

Get oil prices down - 3-4 a gallon gas for many people is nothing but for the rest of the USA - this means less buying and less cycle of economics working - how it can be done is up to them but just get the fucking price of gas and diesel down - and way down 50% of where its at now - no more circus of opening up investigations

Get people back into their homes that were wrong by (ARM) bs in the market place

even if this can be done its going to give him the push to get back into office

lower gas and diesel prices will do way more for his re-election beyond then any political machine out there......................
 

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true, but remember obama's campaign promises that he was voted in on.....

pull troops out of iraq - he's more than doubled them

free health care for all - he's mandating compulsary purchase

i agree the president is just a face man, the real ppl pulling his strings are the ones who funded his multi million dollar election campaign and want a return on their investment
 

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true, but remember obama's campaign promises that he was voted in on.....

pull troops out of iraq - he's more than doubled them

free health care for all - he's mandating compulsary purchase

i agree the president is just a face man, the real ppl pulling his strings are the ones who funded his multi million dollar election campaign and want a return on their investment
While I agree that ALL POLITICIANS are full of shit. It's not that simple, Domino. He has been trying to push the health care bill thru since he started, the Republicans will not allow it.

We can't pull troops out of Iraq, if we did- Iran, Russia, and the Saudi's would have too much influence and take the very oil we fought so hard to get.

All wars are about money, politics are about money (they are business men who are voted in), elections are about money (lobbyists run this country), law is about money (lawyers are paid criminals who know how to get "around" the system without going to jail).

I'm not an Obama fan:

I think his response to criticism is weak, I think he is more concerned about winning the next election than the economy, but he's better than any McCain or Palin or Perry.
 

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We don't remember who created this mess do we?

Tsk tsk...8 years of waging wars on a global scale, pumping false money in the way of real estate loans into the economy, outsourcing all of our jobs, lying about employment numbers, giving away H1B's like they were Fords, and granting huge companies tax breaks..

And you blame Obama??
Yes I blame him, after 3 years and nothing but him trying to force feed his socialist agenda to us. I missed his speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if his plan to fix the jobs situation is another stimulus followed by taxing the rich and companies at an even higher rate. What a tool.
 

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Yes I blame him, after 3 years and nothing but him trying to force feed his socialist agenda to us. I missed his speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if his plan to fix the jobs situation is another stimulus followed by taxing the rich and companies at an even higher rate. What a tool.
What do you suggest here? Should we take the people that make $7.25 an hour instead? Or should we take companies that are making record quarterly profits?
 

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Yes I blame him, after 3 years and nothing but him trying to force feed his socialist agenda to us. I missed his speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if his plan to fix the jobs situation is another stimulus followed by taxing the rich and companies at an even higher rate. What a tool.
there are many more ways to raise federal and state taxable income with out going after business and people
Oil gas drilling
wind / solar / geothermal power

hire loads of taxi drivers that have electric cars to pick up and drop off commuters from the local bus stations and train stations - how cool would that be if you can just get a ride home from the station knowing your about 3 miles from home and or communiting to work you have that ability to get to the front of work like that ?

wait so I see some sort of job creation that would help 10 fold !.

Raising taxes has to stop, if you look at it how much taxes people pay in the usa =

Fed tax
State tax
sales tax
fuel tax
and then make people believe when they hit their IRA maturity that a 50% tax on that - so wait how much are we left with, The environmental agenda he has been pushing is not only just something that is out of touch its stupid and is not allowing USA companies to be competitive. He just a law maker and not a business minded person. Yes we all want the 100mpg car speech but that's when that speech got me sour as someone in the automotive industry just knows it takes time to do things and at that point last night I tuned it off as you can just hear load of ego and no direction from this guy.

Im sure anyone of us who could be elected would have made simple changes and a spurry of jobs would have been created however when your the knowit all person in the room you just dont make friends.

That health care bs ? so after all of that fluff eventually it will get shot down in the courts !.

When I myself see Obama going on vacations to Hawaii and Martha vineyards, i could care less but when someone who elected/voted for him hoping they would be getting the help needed to keep their home and see Obama going on vacation just says to many people "I dont care" about problems.

I can say just to see how disconnected he is from people and his staff are just spot check them and say "hey whats the cost of a gallon of fuel" in California / Kansas / and the cost of living in general you will get this reply



uhh err $2.75
 

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I work with his "staff" every single day that I go to work. Trust me, they are no idiots like you think they are...

Where do you suggest this magical money will come from?? Maybe we can nationalize industries like the Russians did.

Everyone takes vacations, Presidents are just more high profile. He has to go into controlled areas. Do you think that he's going to go vacation in Cancun and party it up w/the college students?
 

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I do think that everyone deserves a vacation.

and to answer your question about taxes. Did you know that until 1920 something when income tax was established that there was only tax on Booze?? secondly, you create jobs be giving companies more money so they hire. Did you know those companies are usually run by rich people? Last time I saw a poor guy hire someone was just last...... So if you tax less, free up regulations and allow business's to profit, they will hire, which then puts money into peoples pockets so that they may buy and repeat the cycle. The more you tax people the less they want to work. Lets say I can make 3 million and be taxed 60% or work less and make 1 million and be taxed at like 30% the guy with 1 million kept a lot more of his money than the guy who busted his ass to pay for obama's redistribution of wealth.
 

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I work with his "staff" every single day that I go to work. Trust me, they are no idiots like you think they are...

Where do you suggest this magical money will come from?? Maybe we can nationalize industries like the Russians did.

Everyone takes vacations, Presidents are just more high profile. He has to go into controlled areas. Do you think that he's going to go vacation in Cancun and party it up w/the college students?
You're the of league extraordinary ivy league educated people, you guys can come up with magical unicorn ideas you guys and figure out there are more ways to tax people in probably one of the worst economic times that is currently facing the USA. Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh woo hoo , You're fired,

Bud ask anyone in the USA when was the last time they went on a paid company vacation ? not many and very few.
 

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Close the tax loop holes, we don't need the IRS.
Drill for more oil here.
Cut the lobbyists' "down" and thier influence and stop the bullshit that goes along with it. It's beyond a joke.
No more lifetime politicians, limit their terms.
Serve the people and not yourselves and your own agendas.
Too many conflicts of intrest with politicians and companies and heads of those companies then taking jobs in Washington.
Limit donations from companies to $2000 per politician.
Any money thats donated and not used by a politician should go back to the donor or thrown into the national deficit (this would be a shitload)

These are just a few things i can think of off the top of my head. When it come down to it I don't know much about politics or pretend to. I don't like politicians, or political party's. Everyone should be independents. It seems like you would get a better vote if people just voted for what's right and not what's right for the party. Like I said I don't know shit about politics. I would like to think I know a little about common sense and what doing the right means.

Serve the people.
 

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I do think that everyone deserves a vacation.

and to answer your question about taxes. Did you know that until 1920 something when income tax was established that there was only tax on Booze?? secondly, you create jobs be giving companies more money so they hire. Did you know those companies are usually run by rich people? Last time I saw a poor guy hire someone was just last...... So if you tax less, free up regulations and allow business's to profit, they will hire, which then puts money into peoples pockets so that they may buy and repeat the cycle. The more you tax people the less they want to work. Lets say I can make 3 million and be taxed 60% or work less and make 1 million and be taxed at like 30% the guy with 1 million kept a lot more of his money than the guy who busted his ass to pay for obama's redistribution of wealth.
Very true, now if you want to lower inflation I would say build and allow more drilling of oil and natural gas - hey when diesel cost more we all pay more ? why ? all of those big rigs run on what ? and converting semi's to run on natural gas would make more sense if there was more subsidies to do this or offering Big rig truck makers more tax exemptions to build more hybrid diesel / NGV trucks for delivery use and SEMI"s. no matter how its put TOyota is already 10 years ahead of everyone else and good for them. All I can say yes if the USA wants to get things right again - why not encourage USA people to buy US Treasurys to hold on too ? then foreign countrys who are hostile to our views ?

I think what is totally worse out of all of this when they say "EXPORT" they do not mean mom and pop businesses that make up a majority of america - no, they mean export with companies like CATAPILLAR or FORD type of companies where mom and pop business are not allowed to compete. In other words for the USA to be the exporting force that they speak of the USD would have to be like this

$1usd=0.25GBP
$1usd=0.10EURO
$1usd=30YEN

worst on all of this is transpiration were so far behind everyone else - look at the weigh stations in california the time a truck has to wait - spending all of that diesel fuel - loss of time and delays.
 
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