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Doesn't sound like an LF-A
 

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Why is this just accepted without controversy? I seem to remember quite a few "BS" statements from a ton of people when the GTR ran 24 seconds slower with video from Nissan to back it up.
 

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Because the LFA doesn't weigh 3900 lbs and have "only" 480 hp.
 

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The left video is the LFA 7:14 lap. The right video is the GT-R 7:24 lap.

GT-R lap starts at 3:25 into video while the LFA starts at 0:02 into video. Click the slider on the GT-R video around 3:20 and start the LFA video when it reaches 3:23.
You may need to pause the LFA video at various points to compare the turns side by side.


The start itself is worth playing over. The camera angles are different, but it seems the LFA gets off to about a 1 second lead from a great flying start. There's no doubt, this LFA is fast and sounds good.
Too bad they won't show a lap of the GT-R SpecV, it would have been a nice comparison.
 

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Why is this just accepted without controversy? I seem to remember quite a few "BS" statements from a ton of people when the GTR ran 24 seconds slower with video from Nissan to back it up.
It has nothing to do with price. To mirror another poster's response, people were using power to weight to determine a cars ability around a track. Also, people were suspecting the GT-R was making more power than suggested and that the tires weren't OE. The real problem is that Nissan built a brilliant car that nobody at the time fully understood! Now it's kicking ass everywhere and has become the core of fanboy fantasies all across the globe.
 

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It has nothing to do with price. To mirror another poster's response, people were using power to weight to determine a cars ability around a track. Also, people were suspecting the GT-R was making more power than suggested and that the tires weren't OE. The real problem is that Nissan built a brilliant car that nobody at the time fully understood! Now it's kicking ass everywhere and has become the core of fanboy fantasies all across the globe.
I disagree with "it has nothing to do with price." Yes, people were using the "power-to-weight" argument, but that was just a cover for the deep-seated belief that since it is just a Nissan that didn't cost $250,000 and didn't "look" like a super car with a pointy front-end and low profile...there's no way it could possibly handle that good and Nissan is absolutely cheating in some way, shape or form. The GT-R was guilty from the start, and you couldn't convince anyone otherwise.

You are right about people claiming it made more power and that they were using "cut slicks" though. That's what I'm talking about. Why is there no claim of this with the LFA? 7:14 is an insanely fast lap, yet nobody is doubting that the car did it in the same set-up that will be offered to the public. THAT is where the "price" of the LFA comes into play. Because the car is being sold at close to a half a million dollars, everyone just accepts it.

Of course, it may just be that I haven't ventured to other forums and all the members here aren't idiots. My blanket statements of "everyone..." and "anybody..." is really only referring to this forum, so there may be controversy that I'm just not aware of. You gotta admit though...there's an obvious bias when it comes to "how much did you pay for it?"
 

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Why is this just accepted without controversy? I seem to remember quite a few "BS" statements from a ton of people when the GTR ran 24 seconds slower with video from Nissan to back it up.
Maybe because those who created controversy about the GT-R times being fake have been proven to be wrong and ignorant, and wouldn't want to be proved wrong again? Look at what happened when Porsche called out Nissan: GT-R proved much faster than the Turbo in same day testing. Egg...face. Just a thought.
As for price, I don't think it is that. It has always been hp/wt. Nobody doubts the ZR1 time. It has no Euro prestige. It has no Euro supercar price. What does it have? Massive power and relatively little weight. Same with the ACR (combined with massive downforce and huge gummy tires).
There are also those who believed Nissan may have been lying before about whether previous Skyline runs were really stock. Toyota/Lexus don't have that kind of history at the 'Ring. What they do have, and which I have never seen before among manufacturers, is an official recognition of the time from a 'Ring official (an executive, no less).
 
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