LFA sets 7:14 ring time!
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2011/09/02/lexus-lfa-nurburgring-edition-laps-nordschleife-in-714/
Good for them, that is an amazing time!
(Skyliner in 3...2...1...)
Mista Cheese
Good for them, that is an amazing time!
(Skyliner in 3...2...1...)
Mista Cheese
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And yet, I'd still, given a choice, I'd rather take cars that set "slower" times (GT-R, ACR, ZR1) over the LFA any day. Something about it just irks me. Maybe its the price in comparison to the other 3 i list, i dont know *shrug*
Loved the G meter display during the run...
This is the LFA "Club track edition" equivalent. It is not the standard LFA which is slower than standard 2012 GTR. Yawns.....
We will talk when (IF) 2012 Club Track Edition laps the Ring.
We will talk when (IF) 2012 Club Track Edition laps the Ring.
This is even more proof that other manufactures require special adjustments to get good times. Corvette (new tire option), Porsche (GT2 RS), LFA (Nur edition)...... If nissan did the same thing, they could destroy all those times.
Nissan shows how it's base_line model performs.. PERIOD!!!! Not some special edition yatta, yatta, yatta, You and I have these base_line models and can be proud of their proven performance. PERIOD!!!!
With that said, I cant wait to see the new ring times for the 2012 in dry conditions.
Nissan shows how it's base_line model performs.. PERIOD!!!! Not some special edition yatta, yatta, yatta, You and I have these base_line models and can be proud of their proven performance. PERIOD!!!!
With that said, I cant wait to see the new ring times for the 2012 in dry conditions.
definitely an impressive lap. I have to agree with the comments about it being the special edition LF-A, though. What we almost need at this point is two lists... the current list with everything and another with the normal non-special edition production cars. Not sure how you would qualify what fits in that second list, but I think it would have to be something along the line of only include cars that make up 25% (completely arbirtrary number for example purposes) or more of the run for that model/chassis. Or maybe the flip of that... include only the model that makes up the largest portion of the production run as this is the model, statistically speaking, most would encounter in the real world.
It's cutting hairs, but I do think there is a difference in comparing a GT-R or Z06, for example, to a regular Viper rather than an ACR. Clearly the former two cars are performance oriented but built with a large degree of everyday functionality. This aligns more closely with a standard Viper versus an ACR which is a very focused track derivative. Again, that is just the quick example. I'm sure there are probably better ones
It's cutting hairs, but I do think there is a difference in comparing a GT-R or Z06, for example, to a regular Viper rather than an ACR. Clearly the former two cars are performance oriented but built with a large degree of everyday functionality. This aligns more closely with a standard Viper versus an ACR which is a very focused track derivative. Again, that is just the quick example. I'm sure there are probably better ones
example:
GT2 RS vs PDK
Z06 stock VS Pilot Cup tires (note those tires can be driven on the street but are more competitive based)
LFA standard VS Nur edition
Viper VS ACR
I am sure if you put Pilot cup tires on the GTR it would result in faster times.
GT2 RS vs PDK
Z06 stock VS Pilot Cup tires (note those tires can be driven on the street but are more competitive based)
LFA standard VS Nur edition
Viper VS ACR
I am sure if you put Pilot cup tires on the GTR it would result in faster times.
Damn...that thing does sound sweet!
Impressive lap time, even on the special model. The NUR package isn't dramatically different from the standard model. Besides the 10hp bump, additional aero, suspension, tires, and seats, the car's weight isn't too far off from the standard unit. Straight-line performance still remains the same. Lexus hasn't officially come out with a ring time with the standard car if I recall correctly, so those times are up for grabs. What I find most impressive is that this time was achieved with only 560hp. The car isn't that lightweight either. People should also note the tires used in all the cars running these times because that can vastly affect the position on the list. So thumbs up to Lexus! Wish the car was cheaper though!
GT-R club track edition is a gutted, roll caged, track-only car with slicks. Don't know if it's equivalent.We will talk when (IF) 2012 Club Track Edition laps the Ring.
We need more 9k RPM redlines in new cars... wouldn't you agree?
+1. I like the purity of the "base" model GT-R on OEM tires setting the time that everyone else is trying to beat. It's like keeping a permanent ace up the sleeve, that may or may not ever be revealed.This is even more proof that other manufactures require special adjustments to get good times. Corvette (new tire option), Porsche (GT2 RS), LFA (Nur edition)...... If nissan did the same thing, they could destroy all those times.
Nissan shows how it's base_line model performs.. PERIOD!!!! Not some special edition yatta, yatta, yatta, You and I have these base_line models and can be proud of their proven performance. PERIOD!!!!
With that said, I cant wait to see the new ring times for the 2012 in dry conditions.
This is the equivalent of the GTR spec V. Weight saving was due to lighter seats, wheels and fixed rear spoiler, otherwise it's still a fully loaded car. It also has 10 hp more and lowered by 10 mm. It has slightly better tires than the regular LFA, but with more down force so it'd be faster in the twists and turns.
I wonder why the Spec V's time was never released.
I wonder why the Spec V's time was never released.
The specV definitely would beat the LF-A NUR I think.
Because philosophically Nissan does not believe in special edition times. They want base line model times that owners can identify with. Any major manufacturer can create a special edition car, but where does it stop? It's like modding, your mods maybe better than mine and the other guys better than yours... see my point? Why those times are fast, how does it compare the their base line models? Where is the PDK time and standard 911 time?This is the equivalent of the GTR spec V. Weight saving was due to lighter seats, wheels and fixed rear spoiler, otherwise it's still a fully loaded car. It also has 10 hp more and lowered by 10 mm. It has slightly better tires than the regular LFA, but with more down force so it'd be faster in the twists and turns.
I wonder why the Spec V's time was never released.
The portions of this post that I have bolded are in complete contradiction with one another. The reason the Nur edition would be faster is more to do with aero, suspension, and tires than power. Those factors contribute far more than adding power would as they allow the existing power to be applied in more portions of the track.Impressive lap time, even on the special model. The NUR package isn't dramatically different from the standard model. Besides the 10hp bump, additional aero, suspension, tires, and seats, the car's weight isn't too far off from the standard unit. Straight-line performance still remains the same. Lexus hasn't officially come out with a ring time with the standard car if I recall correctly, so those times are up for grabs. What I find most impressive is that this time was achieved with only 560hp. The car isn't that lightweight either. People should also note the tires used in all the cars running these times because that can vastly affect the position on the list. So thumbs up to Lexus! Wish the car was cheaper though!
Exactly... hence why there should be two 'Ring lap time lists. It puts me in the mind of muscle cars and specifically Cudas. Everyone wants to bench drag race using a Hemi or 440 6-pack 'Cuda, but the reality is those made up less than 15% of total production.Because philosophically Nissan does not believe in special edition times. They want base line model times that owners can identify with. Any major manufacturer can create a special edition car, but where does it stop? It's like modding, your mods maybe better than mine and the other guys better than yours... see my point? Why those times are fast, how does it compare the their base line models? Where is the PDK time and standard 911 time?
I understand both views. On one hand you have the group who looks at it as "this is what our company (or favorite car) is capable of if you tweak it all the way".... which is fascinating from a technical aspect. On the other, you have the group who prefers to see what the 'entry level' of performance is, knowing it can only go up from there. I believe the latter is the better measure because then you should never have a user down the road come back and say the car was less than advertised. it's a better 'real world' measure IMO
Seeing that the special model is really not that much different than the base model--does anyone else find that time suspect? Don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate any make/model production car that zings the 'Ring, but this one seems a bit extraordinary for the performance envelope of the car.
Now if it had 650HP & R-comps, I'd have no doubts...
Maybe the driver is uber familiar w/ the track & has the talent to completely maximize this knowledge & the car's capability.
Now if it had 650HP & R-comps, I'd have no doubts...
Maybe the driver is uber familiar w/ the track & has the talent to completely maximize this knowledge & the car's capability.
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