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I'm new to this forum and I'm considering trading in my Porsche for a GT-R. My C4S is a DD. So convince me that the GT-R is a better choice for me. From a performance perspective, it's pretty obvious that the GT-R is superior, so no need to go down that route. My desire to get rid of the C4S stems from the fact that I am getting sick of putting my golf clubs in the passenger seat and I don't like driving my wife's car and leaving her with the Porsche. Therefore I'm considering cars with trunks (GT-R or a C63 coupe black series). So here's a few questions. I've heard that the GT-R is fairly noisy (not talking about road noise, engine, tires, etc), ie does the suspension make weird noises??? do the brakes make strange sounds too? like quarters jingling? My existing car has a ton of annoying sounds because I put on coilovers and stiffer sway bars and I'm wondering if the GT-R is going to be the same or worse.

So what I really want to know is what you guys think is a better DD....
 

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the noise comes mostly from the transmission. havent noticed any weird noise from the suspension and the brakes do tend to squeal a bit. i think your golf clubs will fit nicely in the GTR, although i havent tried myself. overall, i think you'd like the change...
 

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I owned a GTR for over 3 years and just recently traded it in on C2S that was fully equipped including a PDK. These are really 2 different cars. The Porsche lacks the brute power of the GTR (mine had 540 whp) and I loved that performance. You cannot match it unless you are willing to spend significantly more money than you would for the GTR. That said, I did not think the GTR was a great daily driver. The GR6 transmission certain has its quirks and its longterm reliability remains a question mark. By comparison the PDK is infinitely smoother. If you value incredible performance over everything else, the GTR is the car for you. However, that performance comes with some compromises if you intend to use the car only as a daily driver.
 

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....if someone needs to convince you to buy a car it's probably not the right car for you.
 

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This is easy, buy the Maserati GT
 

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I just don't buy these "convince me" threads
 

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I just don't buy these "convince me" threads
I'm quite active on the 6speedonline thread if anyone doubts my sincerity. the problem with a test drive, at least in my area (Hermosa Beach/Los Angeles) is that very few dealers have the car and many won't let you test drive. I'd rather do the research on the car first so I know what to look out for. Regardless, I rarely get the full flavor of the car and I certainly am not able to pick up on minor irritations that the car might have. Specifically, I have read that the GR6 transmission is not the smoothest in city traffic and makes for a relatively poor DD. I doubt that the harshness of the suspension would be a problem to me since I have had very stiff cars in the past (Lotus Elise,Cooper S and now a C4S with coilovers). Maybe "convince me" is an overstatement because I really like the car and am sick of not having a trunk and very few cars are attractive to me, ie GT-R, C63 Black Series coupe, another Porsche Carrera. So right now, I'm just doing research on the car. I've always believed that the Porsche is the best DD sports car taking all things into consideration ie maintenance costs and reliability. GT-R maintenance costs are a little shocking but I'm getting used to it. Afterall, this ain't a Camry. Anyway, like I said, I'm just gathering information.
 

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This is easy, buy the Maserati GT
I'd have to be about 30 years older, have a full head of grey hair or no hair at all, and half dead before I could consider a Maseratti.
 

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Very easy to add sound deadening matting under the back seats to quite the trans noises.
 

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Never been in a 911, so can't compare it to that.

As a daily driver, it's much better than my previous 350z. It sits higher, and is comfortable on long drives. Obviously the trunk is much bigger as well. Still getting use to having a big trunk! The car has a lot of noises. Road noise from runflat tires, and the transmission at low speeds.
 

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I'd have to be about 30 years older, have a full head of grey hair or no hair at all, and half dead before I could consider a Maseratti.
I am 30 years older, have all my hair and am hopefully not half dead and I still wouldn't consider a Maserati.
 

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The GT-R is a great daily driver for me. Superior in every way to my last daily driver, an M3. I like the quirky noises the trans makes - makes it feel a bit more mechanical. Try to meet someone local to you and drive one -- or do what I did and just buy one (dealer would not let me test) and hope for the best. I have not regretted it a single day in the first year of ownership.
 

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I've had a 911 and a 966TT before. I honestly think the GT-R is extremely comfortable to drive around but granted, the Porsches had the PSS9s on. I think the Porsche is a decent overall car, but IMO, a better toss-up might be between a 997TT and a GT-R. For a Carrera, as long as you won't miss the fact that it's a Porsche, the GT-R will give a better experience...especially when modded.
 
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