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+1 on this! Also just saw "inside job" its pretty sad that our government is corrupt that stuff like This can happen and its not going to be easy to fix and probably never will.
 

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Friend linked me this yesterday. Signed.
 
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Thanks for signing.
I signed it over the weekend, but don't think it's going to go anywhere. Even if it gets the 25k signatures, do you see them changing the 25 yr rule? The use of Homeland Security funds I could see changing, but not import laws.
 

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I signed it over the weekend, but don't think it's going to go anywhere. Even if it gets the 25k signatures, do you see them changing the 25 yr rule? The use of Homeland Security funds I could see changing, but not import laws.
25,000 isn't the goal.

25,000 is the beginning.

From 25,000 a base can be built. I know the ins and outs of the laws, and they can be changed, but it takes a lot of effort to do it. Its encouraging for me to see it get spread around.
 

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Even though I've long since given up on my dream of owning either an R32 or R34 Skyline GT-R here in the US, I've gone ahead and added myself to the petition. Not so much because of a desire to resurrect that dream, but more so out of outrage that tax dollars/man-power that should go towards protecting the nation is being wasted on policing stuff like this
 
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25,000 isn't the goal.

25,000 is the beginning.

From 25,000 a base can be built. I know the ins and outs of the laws, and they can be changed, but it takes a lot of effort to do it. Its encouraging for me to see it get spread around.
Your knowledge of the import system is why I asked. I signed it because I agree, it is encouraging. To be honest, there's a ton of cars I'd consider buying before a R33 or R34 if things are changed. Then again, by the time things are changed, those cars will probably be close to 25 yrs old anyway.
 

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Your knowledge of the import system is why I asked. I signed it because I agree, it is encouraging. To be honest, there's a ton of cars I'd consider buying before a R33 or R34 if things are changed. Then again, by the time things are changed, those cars will probably be close to 25 yrs old anyway.
Yes they would. There are a ton of cool different cars that people could import. Not just Nissan Skylines. Most people don't daily drive a 25 year old, or 15 year old car. They are a toy, a hobby for people. The reasons the cars are not legal, have very little to do with safety and emissions, and more to do with money and lobbying power.
 

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Just as a heads USCBP has started Seizing RB26DETT motors from shipments so if you have any thing coming in from japan might want to hold off.

will show pix up of what Im talking about later

Also still the issue is once if something were enacted like this cars that were imported and that still remain here would still be caught up in some legal mumbo jumbo that would still make them contraband, if you want some insight how this would pan out take a look at the 15 year exemption rule in Canada and Australia to give you an idea how befits and who doesn't, biggest fight will be against new car makers and parts makers who would argue non compliant parts being sold on the market and being used for US-compliant cars causing liability issues.

I do like the idea of importing a car and going about my way with it but there are those who have very deep pockets with very long arms who will fight that 15 year rule.

Frankly I'd like to see a 10Year old exemption and from a trade and jobs creation act would be very benifical for the US economy or even allow 660cc Kei cars into the USA and have them run on natural gas or E85 so they can be bought sold and exchanged.

Again the issue is people who have contraband in the usa but once that law is cleared and passed to allow older cars to be in the USA might cause a whole lot more issues.................
 

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If the engine is over 21 years old, it is EPA Exempt.

http://vehicleimport...nd-engines.html
yup, but get this I had a chevy equinox I had to ship and to give you an idea of the IQ of the people working there they seized a 2009 chevy equinox saying it was non compliant car and they said it was the vin # missing and was not on the door jam but I told them where the vin # was located on the radiator support where the hood latch was located - talk about a derp fest. "oh we didnt know that" ...........................................
 

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yup, but get this I had a chevy equinox I had to ship and to give you an idea of the IQ of the people working there they seized a 2009 chevy equinox saying it was non compliant car and they said it was the vin # missing and was not on the door jam but I told them where the vin # was located on the radiator support where the hood latch was located - talk about a derp fest. "oh we didnt know that" ...........................................
I know this. This is why you have to know what you are talking about, and you have to have all that information at your fingertips. I have been around import and export for more than 20 years. My family has been exporting cars to Japan since 1989. I am originally from New Zealand, and so have dealt with that side of import and export. Before I worked at STILLEN, I exported about 2000 cars, boats, RV's, to Australia. I have gone to battle with customs on several issues. Very frustrating, because they have all the power, and the shipper/importer has very little. Even with a lawyer, it is difficult, and gets expensive.

If you are right with the import or export, it still ends up costing you several thousands of dollars in fees. They will charge you for storage and demurage. They will charge you to unload. They will break things, and its all up to you to fix it and deal with it. They take no responsibility for their actions.
 
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