[umarshakil]

Hello guys,

The M2 was traded in for pops Highlander and now I'm searching for another GT-R. I was offered a 2017 + $54,000 trade in for a 61,000 km white on red 2017 but after doing some research I found out the car was written off by Nissan.

Dads car was here and dealer offered pretty much the same trade in value so it was a no brainer. Now, I'm searching for a new or used GTR for the right price. The GTR market is ridiculous in Canada where a 4/5 year GTR is selling close to MSRP. I guess my only option is really new then and one Nissan dealership is still allowing me to place an order for my desired spec.

I'm facing a dilemma as usual haha. Many dealers are saying by 2023 the R36 would be launched and if I'm going to order a new one why not wait for the latest greatest thing? But wait, the luxury tax would come in play so I should order to avoid that and stick to the same engineering Nissan has done to this car for last decade.

To be honest, I'm not in rush to buy one even. Everything from work is online for me at this moment. Plus, Nissan isn't allowing any test drives due to how short the supply of GT-R are. I've been trying to get a GTR test drive for weeks and little to no luck. One rental car company has one and they're offering test drives in April.

If the used market was to come down and the R36 isn't what I was expecting then I'm going for a used 2017/2018 v10 plus R8. What you all think? let me know

 

[Ninesixx]

I bought mine new in August cause buying a used one just didn't make sense with the current prices. Just go get your GTR man, it's not like the value is going to tank on them, it's a GTR, it will always hold it's value regardless of the market. People spend $80k on 10 year old ones. If you really want an R36 when/if they come out in 2 years, sell your R35 and buy it.

I was like you when I was looking around, spent a year hemming and hawing over what ifs when I could have spent that year driving my GTR. I found a couple used ones at a dealership, 2020 models, and was able to drive it. Looked around for a new Bayside Blue and had it shipped from PA to Chicago. If it's hard to find a test drive, reach out to your local GTR owners club or something.

Idk how the Canadian market is, but what's so specific about the spec you want? There's very minimal options on GTRs, you'll wait another 6-8 months for them to build and ship a car to your dealership and you have no guarantee they won't jack up the price on you once it's there. By the time it gets there you could have a different manager that doesn't agree with the previous selling price.

Just find one at a dealership and negotiate your best deal and have it shipped if it's far. Or fly out and drive it to make sure it's what you want before taking delivery. It's not a cheap purchase, spend the extra money and do it right.

just my 2 cents

 

[NissanassassiN]

Rumours have been flying about the R36 for a couple years now, as far as gas/hybrid/electric, prices, HP, styling, etc.
Nissan has not officially declared the R35 dead yet, and who knows if/when there will be an R36?
Meanwhile, I think the well taken care of, lower mileage cars will hold value, and even increase, especially if Nissan ends R35.
However, all the used csrs will be that much older, and inflation will eat the power of your dollars.
I looked and looked before I bought mine, and I finally got tired of scrounging and just bought what I thought best at the time (early '19), I didn't even get ghe color I really wanted (white).

As somone wrote in another thread, tomorrow is guaranteed to no-one.

 

[crainp]

I started waiting on the R36 over 5 years ago to trade my at the time Premium. It could be a long wait.

 

[AND1]

I am having the same issue. I want to get a GTR and sell my 2018 BMW M3. But the prices are crazy. They want $104k for a 2016 stock and even more if the see it has wheels, bigger spoiler. So not sure if i should wait till the market equalizes or what... I hear that a FBO on GTR will get you like 640? I am at around that with my tuned M3. so would it even matter, does it drive that much better than an M3?

 

[Ninesixx]

I am having the same issue. I want to get a GTR and sell my 2018 BMW M3. But the prices are crazy. They want $104k for a 2016 stock and even more if the see it has wheels, bigger spoiler. So not sure if i should wait till the market equalizes or what... I hear that a FBO on GTR will get you like 640? I am at around that with my tuned M3. so would it even matter, does it drive that much better than an M3?

Not sure that GTR values will drop enough to offset the money you'll lose for not selling your M3 in this market. German performance cars aside from Porsche seem to fall off a cliff with depreciation, but you can get a lot for it in todays market. Even before this crazy market, the oldest and highest mileage GTRs seemed to bottom out around $60k.

Does it drive better? That's subjective. Is it a better performance car than the M3? Absolutely. You can get 600hp out of pretty much any decent performance platform if that's your goal. If you want 800hp or 1000hp+ I'd imagine the GTR is much better for that.

 

[AND1]

Not sure that GTR values will drop enough to offset the money you'll lose for not selling your M3 in this market. German performance cars aside from Porsche seem to fall off a cliff with depreciation, but you can get a lot for it in todays market. Even before this crazy market, the oldest and highest mileage GTRs seemed to bottom out around $60k.

Does it drive better? That's subjective. Is it a better performance car than the M3? Absolutely. You can get 600hp out of pretty much any decent performance platform if that's your goal. If you want 800hp or 1000hp+ I'd imagine the GTR is much better for that.

Yeah, I seem to see a few fellow M3 owners that have gone single turbo and boom wasted money. Reason why I don't want to go further in adding any more performance parts to gain 800hp. So I am in the market for a GTR Problem is Stealer ships want $100k for 2016 and I don't know if waiting a few months would even equalize prices.

 

[Kevin]

Yeah, I seem to see a few fellow M3 owners that have gone single turbo and boom wasted money. Reason why I don't want to go further in adding any more performance parts to gain 800hp. So I am in the market for a GTR Problem is Stealer ships want $100k for 2016 and I don't know if waiting a few months would even equalize prices.

You can expect gtr prices to go up if anything.

 

[cfmillz]

I am having the same issue. I want to get a GTR and sell my 2018 BMW M3. But the prices are crazy. They want $104k for a 2016 stock and even more if the see it has wheels, bigger spoiler. So not sure if i should wait till the market equalizes or what... I hear that a FBO on GTR will get you like 640? I am at around that with my tuned M3. so would it even matter, does it drive that much better than an M3?

What year is your m3, and is it manual?

 

[WholeGrainHomie]

Doubt the R36 is even close to a 2023 launch or even reveal. There isn't any test vehicles on the roads like what we've seen with the new Z. Nissan too focused on the EV revolution now. R36 will probably be on the back burner until they master EV & Hybrid tech.

I could be completely wrong too and they can just re-skin the R35 and call it the R36. Companies be doing funny things nowadays.

btw, that new G82 M4 is gonna hurt a lot of current GTR owner's feelings. That car too quick with a small tune.

 

[AND1]

What year is your m3, and is it manual?

2018 Sakhir M3 is 2018

 

[Wahloo]

Canadian luxury tax luckily got pushed a bit (early 2022) from what I’ve heard/read.
I put an order in 2021 November and had my January 2022 production allocation get pushed out to July (sept delivery estimate).
Unsure if Canadian dealers would even be taking orders atm as it seems there is quite a backlog

 

[umarshakil]

I bought mine new in August cause buying a used one just didn't make sense with the current prices. Just go get your GTR man, it's not like the value is going to tank on them, it's a GTR, it will always hold it's value regardless of the market. People spend $80k on 10 year old ones. If you really want an R36 when/if they come out in 2 years, sell your R35 and buy it.

I was like you when I was looking around, spent a year hemming and hawing over what ifs when I could have spent that year driving my GTR. I found a couple used ones at a dealership, 2020 models, and was able to drive it. Looked around for a new Bayside Blue and had it shipped from PA to Chicago. If it's hard to find a test drive, reach out to your local GTR owners club or something.

Idk how the Canadian market is, but what's so specific about the spec you want? There's very minimal options on GTRs, you'll wait another 6-8 months for them to build and ship a car to your dealership and you have no guarantee they won't jack up the price on you once it's there. By the time it gets there you could have a different manager that doesn't agree with the previous selling price.

Just find one at a dealership and negotiate your best deal and have it shipped if it's far. Or fly out and drive it to make sure it's what you want before taking delivery. It's not a cheap purchase, spend the extra money and do it right.

just my 2 cents

You're right about the depreciation. The gtr is strong in value and that's definitely a reason why it stands out among my choices. I might be pulling a trigger sooner than later. Plus they can fix early issues during the time when the R36 launches. Thanks for the opinion and here's 5 cents in return 💲

 

[umarshakil]

Canadian luxury tax luckily got pushed a bit (early 2022) from what I’ve heard/read.
I put an order in 2021 November and had my January 2022 production allocation get pushed out to July (sept delivery estimate).
Unsure if Canadian dealers would even be taking orders atm as it seems there is quite a backlog

Let's hope it never comes. I'm just starting to get into 6 figure car territory haha

 

[umarshakil]

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Lovely colour man. Due to the market conditions, it's a great time to sell any car but a bad time to buy a used car. If you're going knew you maybe fine but wait time is longer to get a car anyways. But, if you have a vehicle on the way or a good one is available around your budget then I'd sale it or see a possible trade in can happened.

I've had a 2018 and 2017 gtr offers with average km. The history of both models was extremely weird. The 2018 spent its time in Toronto, Canada and each year went to Arizona, USA. It was a great spec but the orange seating was another turn off.

The 2017 was exactly what I wanted. It was tuned, came with a pair of rims and was one of my desired colour options. The carafe history was on point and every service from brakes to tires was done at a Nissan dealership. I even give my deposit in but the car was tuned and I wanted to know what's exactly been done before I pull the trigger. I called up the dealership who delivered and this car for years. Found out the bumper was repainted here as first owner curbed it. No biggie really. The dealer said it does void some warranties when the car is tuned and I asked him if he can check which ones. Once he opened it up on the software it stated the car was written off all warranties avoided. This car was also in Quebec and had a lot of on and off services. Pulled away from that one

At the time the gtr 2017 and 2018 was selling for 110K to 115K CDN. Still high but wished I pulled the bullet then but it's better to be safe than sorry. This car isn't cheap I know that's for sure haha

 

[AND1]

Lovely colour man. Due to the market conditions, it's a great time to sell any car but a bad time to buy a used car. If you're going knew you maybe fine but wait time is longer to get a car anyways. But, if you have a vehicle on the way or a good one is available around your budget then I'd sale it or see a possible trade in can happened.

I've had a 2018 and 2017 gtr offers with average km. The history of both models was extremely weird. The 2018 spent its time in Toronto, Canada and each year went to Arizona, USA. It was a great spec but the orange seating was another turn off.

The 2017 was exactly what I wanted. It was tuned, came with a pair of rims and was one of my desired colour options. The carafe history was on point and every service from brakes to tires was done at a Nissan dealership. I even give my deposit in but the car was tuned and I wanted to know what's exactly been done before I pull the trigger. I called up the dealership who delivered and this car for years. Found out the bumper was repainted here as first owner curbed it. No biggie really. The dealer said it does void some warranties when the car is tuned and I asked him if he can check which ones. Once he opened it up on the software it stated the car was written off all warranties avoided. This car was also in Quebec and had a lot of on and off services. Pulled away from that one

At the time the gtr 2017 and 2018 was selling for 110K to 115K CDN. Still high but wished I pulled the bullet then but it's better to be safe than sorry. This car isn't cheap I know that's for sure haha

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Thanks bro. So you ended up with a BMW for now? Thats a nice color.

 

[hunter]

There will never be an R-36 with all Petro power..........

 

[umarshakil]

Thanks bro. So you ended up with a BMW for now? Thats a nice color.

Actually this is the car I had and have sold for my dads highlander. I used the funds for a down payment on a future property though. The GT-R is next and I may pull the bullet this month. I do agree with a lot of people but still in the decision making phase. Still tryna get a test drive but all these dealerships aren't up for it. Let's see

 

[gixy2k]

Not sure that GTR values will drop enough to offset the money you'll lose for not selling your M3 in this market. German performance cars aside from Porsche seem to fall off a cliff with depreciation, but you can get a lot for it in todays market. Even before this crazy market, the oldest and highest mileage GTRs seemed to bottom out around $60k.

Does it drive better? That's subjective. Is it a better performance car than the M3? Absolutely. You can get 600hp out of pretty much any decent performance platform if that's your goal. If you want 800hp or 1000hp+ I'd imagine the GTR is much better for that.

"Absolutely"?

I personally would say, "M3/M4 (S58) is slightly better of the line, with both GTR and S58 reaching 1/4 mi. around the same time in stock form"

However, where the GTR does shine is when there is deep pockets for rebuilding engine/trans internals (> 700hp). Dollar for dollar, I don't think there is anything out there that can touch it, yet. Which in other words is in line with your last statement.

 

[Ninesixx]

"Absolutely"?

I personally would say, "M3/M4 (S58) is slightly better of the line, with both GTR and S58 reaching 1/4 mi. around the same time in stock form"

However, where the GTR does shine is when there is deep pockets for rebuilding engine/trans internals (> 700hp). Dollar for dollar, I don't think there is anything out there that can touch it, yet. Which in other words is in line with your last statement.

I've seen that video. The S58 cars definitely have better launch control programming and/or tires, but it's clear which car is faster and I doubt the S58 cars will ever catch up in terms of high end tuning potential.

I do think an M3 or M4 would be better for someone who wants to do a few simple mods and still have a beast of a car.