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Nitto NT05/NT05R vs. Toyo R888 (sizing)

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#1 ·
Hey all..I've been searching forever and just want to be sure about sizing. I have stock 2013 premium wheels (9.5 front width, 10.5 rear width)

I'm debating between the Toyo R888's which I know the sizes Front: 285-35-20, Rear: 315-30-20

And the Nitto NT05's up front and the NT05R's in the back...Will 275-35-20 NT05's up front and 315-35-20 NT05R;s in the rear work?

Also, any preference of which tire is better for grip?
 
#7 ·
i would do the R888's without question. Putting a DR on the back of a GTR is kind of a sin IMO unless the car is being purpose built for drag racing.

R888's hook very well. I have a friend who makes over 1000whp and he hooks in 2nd with R888's.
 
#8 ·
i would do the R888's without question.

R888's hook very well. I have a friend who makes over 1000whp and he hooks in 2nd with R888's.
I agree

I recently got an 18 inch rim with a Nitto 315 for the rear of the car and to be honest it does not hook that much better then my 20 with the r888 out back - I drag race alot so was hoping it would be a huge advantage but it wasnt really that different in my case
 
#10 ·
I'm waiting for the same answer!
I'm leaning toward the NT05R more than the R888. Maybe i'm misinterpreting the advertising but Nitto seems to be pushing its tire more for drag than road race.whereas Toyo seems to be the opposite. also I believe the Nitto maybe more quite on the road for daily driving.
 
#14 ·
My NT05Rs 315R NT05 275F work great around turns and straights. There's no noise, unlike the toyos which are really noisy. The rears are R compound so they wont like rain, also an issue with toyos.
Depends on your use, pick appropriately. I daily drive the Nitto's. Doesn't matter if its the toyo or nitto, I can blow the tires off Hossier's, 'cause I got powa. Traction isn't just in the tires, its in the awd clutches and tune.

~Dv8
 
#15 ·
Just to clarify, u have 20 inch wheels? And your reat NT05R's are 315-35-20, and fronts are 275-40-20?....I'm really only asking about the fronts because u can order 275-35-20 or 275-40-20....I'm 99% sure it's the 275-40-20 I would need...thank you

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#21 ·
not sure if you can get them in the right size but the NT01 is more of a competitor to the R888 than the NT05 is. I have ran the Nt05's on my vette before and was not impressed, a friend with a cobra had to run 315's on it, and still spun like crazy after a hard down shift. the NT01's he has are 275 and they work much beter.
 
#22 ·
I agree steve and was going to ask the same. The Nt05 is a street tire similar to a Ventus V12 or a PSS.

NT01's and R888's are DOT compliant R compounds. Which makes them legal for street use-but you don't want to daily drive them. Waste of money imo to street an R888 or NT01.

If you want something for street that hooks up, try a set of Hankook RS3's or Bridegeston RE-11's. Use the RS3 if you live in warm climate and use the RE-11 if you have colder temps.
 
#24 · (Edited by Moderator)
Damn...just bought 2 nt05/35/20 (vs nt05/40/20) for my front drag set-up. Can I still use this for my daily use? Luckily I have incoming new set of 20 inch wheels.
 
#26 ·
Well , NT05's are a great street tire. They are grouped in and are competitors with tires like Michelin PSS, Bridgestone 760's, etc. basically our "max performance summer tires". They are all very good tires and it basically comes down to preference with them.

Now take a tire like that compared to an R888 or a NT01. There is no comparison. Two completely different classes of tires. I personally would argue that the RS3 is a better overall tire than either the R888 or the NT01. Why? Because they are cheaper last longer and just as fast. The RS3 does heat up very slow, guys that race on the east coast and colder climates seem to like the RE-11 and the R888, the guys in warmer climates all seem to run the RS3 and the NT01. I have never used NT01's but the RS3 handles high temps well. It is also it's weakness, until you get it hot it is slippery. Once it warms up though, man you can not push this tire hard enough. It is like frigging rubber glue.

For street use though the NT05 is more than you need and will also still do very well at a track. I use Bridgestone 760's for street which is a direct competitor to the NT05(I had a hard time choosing between those two), and both are far better tires than 95% of drivers can ever use to their max.
 
#29 ·
I have 19x10 CF5s coming up for my front drag set-up. Not sure what Nitto front will fit. There are nt05 275/30/19 and 275/35/19. Any help is appreciated.
 
#30 ·
Another possible front options are either INVO 285/35/19 or 285/30/19. Not sure if these are recommended for drag use.
 
#31 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hey longgo can you tell me what the OEM tire sizes are(sorry not a GTR owner lol-just want one) The trick to tire sizes is:

285/35 means the tire is 285 mm Wide. The second number is always a percentage for the height of the tire.
285/35 means the tire is 285 mm wide and sidewall is .35 * 285 = 99.75mm high
285/30 = 285 mm wide and sidewall is .30 =85.5 mm high.

Like wise a 305/30 is 305 MM wide but has a 91 mm sidewall
So a 19" + the height of the sidewall is the total height of the tire/wheel combo. Make sense?

If you vary from OEM tire height, it will throw your speedometer off(very slightly though so not a huge deal). Just keep that in mind if you use non OEM tire sizes. By playing with the wheel size vs sidewall height you can get different "looks" and it also plays into performance and tire life. basically a 30 in the same tire size is going to have less tread than a 35. 30 is generally just a show tire and not personally aware of anyone that would choose it for dragging/tracking.

For drag racers, the ideal tires are usually huge fat spongy tires with small wheels. On an AWD car like the GTR it is something I am personally interested in learning more about. because from an old school perspective (think funny car or Top Fuel), you got these huge fat tires in the back and skinnies up front, but with AWD that rule obviously changes-just not personally sure how.
 
#32 ·
#34 ·
OK will try to explain it as concisely as I can. lets take the OEM wheels:

Stock GT-R Wheels
Front 20 x 9.5 45 offset
Rear 20 x 10.5 25 offset

The 20 is the diameter, the 9.5 and the 10.5 are the widths. Let's convert those to mm(tires are specced in mm).

9.5" = 241mm
10.5" = 266mm ( we will ignore offset for now).

so for a 20" x 9.5" wheel, you want a tire that is close(doesn't have to be exact) to 241mm. So a tire like a 285/35 will probably fit this wheel, but it is going to hang over a bit. a 275/40 will fit a bit better, and a 255 is probably the "correct" fit. However it's a little subjective, and there isn't much harm in going a little big. However a 305/30 tire is definitely going to be too wide to put on a 9.5" wheel. Sure you can mount it, but It can possibly leak and probably will wear funny.

for the 10.5" wheel(266mm) you are probably safe up to a 305. 315, I know some people do it, but personally I think that it stretching it a bit(no pun intended).

So like wise, a 20" diameter wheel with a 285/35 tire on it is 507 mm (height of wheel) + (385 * .35)(height of sidewall) = 606 mm = 23.5 inches in diameter.

So at ride height you can measure from the top of the tire to the inside of your wheel well-that's your clearance. You want to maintain probably 3+ inches of wheel well clearance so that you suspension has enough travel length.(there are books written on this idea so I won't go any further on that for now).

Now as your tire gets wider and wider and your wheel offsets get bigger and bigger to get that "aggressive" look, you start to bring your tire closer and closer to your fender.Once you have gone "too wide" you can still be saved by camber settings, fender rolling, all the tricks in the book, but at some point, the wheel/tire combo is too tall and too wide and it will rub the fender or bump stop on the wheel well before full suspension travel has completed.