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F13 M6 vs 2012 GTR

7.3K views 35 replies 20 participants last post by  Goonthree  
#1 ·
Hopefully this is not a repost and I am sincerely not trying to bring a potential crapstorm here, but is this feasible based on members' experience here?


Didn't know the new M6 is that much quicker than the 2012 GTR based on both cars' trap speeds

Curious to hear from members with actual experience
 
#9 ·
LOL i guess he must be trapping 200mph at 1/4 mile. dreamer are really amazing.



2013 BMW M6 Coupe

Data for BMW M6 Coupe, model year 2013, version for North America with 2-door coupe body type, RWD (rear-wheel drive) and dual-clutch semi-automatic 7-speed gearbox (with manual shift mode). Basic www.automobile-catalog.com specs and characteristics: petrol (gasoline) engine of 4395 cm3 / 267.9 cui displacement with advertised power 417.5 kW / 560 hp / 568 PS ( SAE net ) / 7000 and 678 Nm / 500 lb-ft / 1500 of torque. Dimensions: this model outside length is 4903 mm / 193 in, it's 1899 mm / 74.8 in wide and has wheelbase of 2851 mm / 112.2 in. The officially claimed value of a drag coefficient Cd = 0.32 . Standard wheels were fitted with the tires size: (check standard and alternative tire sizes). Reference vehicle weights are: official base curb weight 1930 kg / 4255 lbs, gross weight GVWR 2350 kg / 5181 lbs. How fast is that car ? Performance: top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) electronically governed (declared by factory); accelerations 0- 60 mph 4.1 s, 0- 100 km/h 4.2 s (declared by factory), 1/4 mile drag time (402 m) 12.1 s (a-c simulation). Fuel consumption and mileage: official: , average estimated by a-c: 14 l/100km / 20.2 mpg (imp.) / 16.8 mpg (U.S.) / 7.2 km/l, average estimated combined driving range of this car is 573 km / 355 miles. To view table with this car complete performance data and technical specifications (including final drive and gear ratios, powertrain description, inside and outside dimensions, acceleration graphs etc.) and more photos, or to compare up to 5 cars side-by-side - click one of the the buttons below:


quote from http://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/bmw/6-series_f12_f13/6_f13_m6/2013.html

IF you truely believe it, more power to your M, lol.
 
#11 ·
"But yes, over here I kill them, almost makes me think the GTRs given to the press are tuned because ive been involved in racing for about 15years now and ive NEVER seen a private individual do a 10.9sec 1/4mile in his stock 2012 gtr ever? more like 11.8"

this guy is kidding right? 11.8? for a 2012? 2009 can do better! Somebody shut him up please
 
#14 ·
Seems like he is the type of guy to tune, drop air filters, and mid pipe and say his car is stock. The way he pulled that GTR is just hard to believe. But would a new M6 start to pull a 2012 at some point? Or is the 2012 GTR faster from start to finish?
 
#16 ·
I like the M5 and M6...in fact I test drove an M5 today. It looks great, is very nice, well made, quick, handles well, etc, but the M5 I drove certainly didn't feel anywhere near as quick as my '11 GTR when it was stock, much less now with tune/midpipe or a 2012-on version. In all fairness it was new and BMW engines do loosen up with time. The M6 is slightly lighter, but testing hasn't shown it to be significantly faster. In the end, the M5 is a great car, and the S63tu is a great engine, but I can't imagine a stock M5 or M6 having much of a chance in any kind of race with a stock '12 or later GTR, and there's no way or could leave one for dead as in that video. Fake, bad driver, or wrong gear.
 
#18 ·
bmw M cannot lose a race never ....even form an SR-71 blackbird ,ask anyone on M5board and they will confirm that with "facts" and "video".The bmw M3,5,6 are not man made ,they are created buy God himself ........ and make no mistake nothing else is better or faster .To argue with and BMW fanatics is worst than to try arguing with the radio, difference is you can turn off the radio if you get tired of listening
 
#19 ·
Just to make a note, F13 is the convertible and F12 is the coupe. I don't think the video was rigged. The M won this race because the GT-R could have been in auto, or VDC was on, or maybe he was in manual mode but wrong gear. All those factors could easily kill the run which is what we saw in the video. Point being, just because you are driving a GT-R, it doesn't mean you are going to win every race no matter what. You've got to make sure the car is set up right. The M6 driver had it set up right and GT-R driver didn't, otherwise the results would have been different.
 
#21 ·
I datalog a 2013 m5 and based on that I would bet it is faster than stock 2010 from roll. He did race the stock 2010 gtr and lost by 1/3 car but m5 might have a passenger as I will ask. He traded in the 13 m5 for 13 m6 last yr and says m6 felt much better. I have ran both cars and both are fast for stock. If you let a m6 take the hit from roll I dont think you will ever catch it with 2012 gtr.

I also drove the m6 and it is very nice and only reason he doesnt have gtr is the narrow seat and clunky tranny.
 
#23 ·
didnt he claim to beat the 2012 three times? 30 hp difference and 300 pounds heavier in the m6
 
#25 ·

The BMW M5 and Nissan GT-R are not conventional rivals, but both have around 550bhp, cost nearly ÂŁ75k and promise brutal performance. So which one wins our series of tests? Here is a review from autocar.co.uk. I know it's not a F13 M6 but i dont think the M6 would do that much better.
 
#26 ·
Im sorry but there's NO WAY the M6 is that much faster than the 12GTR. I test drove both the new M5/M6s a few weeks ago and they both had severe turbo lag compared to my 13BE. The GTR driver must been fallen asleep when he raced that M6.
 
#28 ·
From my other post:

[background=rgb(246, 246, 246)]Just look up my vbox data of 2013 M5. 75 deg, 60-130 mph in 9.89 s with passenger (me) on a totally flat road. 2010 GTR with midpipe at 85 deg ran 11.0 s with me in it 60-130 mph and it was downhill 5 ft (not much). The 2013 M5 ran a stock 2010 GTR (another one) and lost by about 1/3 of a car. The BMW M5 has a passenger and GTR did not.[/background]

[background=rgb(246, 246, 246)]For comparison, a stock 2013 GT500 with .25 s and .4 s shifts, ran the 60-130 mph in 10.18 s with me in it in 80 deg weather. Gt500 and M5 did the pulls on the same HWY, different day. Can 2012 GTR beat 2013 GT500 from roll? I don't think so. Maybe I can get the M6 together with the GT500.[/background]

[background=rgb(246, 246, 246)]One of these days I will datalog his 2013 M6 unless he sells it since he get rid of cars every 3-6 months it seems.[/background]
 
#29 ·
I agree that several cars produced stock out there have more bhp and can be faster than a stock 2012 GTR, especially from a roll. So has the BMW M5 or M6 (or any of those other less expensive high powered cars) run the Nurburgring in 7:18 minutes or less? No you say? Seems these cars pay a big price for all of that unbalanced power.

That is why a GTR is just a better platform, period. You can live with it the way it is, or you can modify it for not that much money. However a modified GTR can run rings around almost any other car out there, regardless of the price, anytime and anywhere. Why does it really not matter that a stock M6 may beat a stock GTR? Because you can always make a GTR go faster than reasonable, and as a bonus, a GTR will take corners, too ;)
 
#36 ·
The numbers are great for research to purchase the car but not for racing (not a magazine racing fan). One has to go out there and do it. On paper the 700+ WHP 2013 Ford GT500 on drag radials own by a tuner would kill a stock 2013 Stock GT500. Well at the private rental for the entire day, the 700+ whp GT500 can't even run one 11's and bone stock member here ran at least (12) 11's passes in his 2013 GT500. One can easily get 30 passes that day since there are probably on 10 cars there. The driver that can't run 11's has run 9s before, but it is an automatic!

We just go racing for fun because anything can happen. I sure learned more from losing than winning that is for sure. When one combines a great car with a great driver, that is when it is lethal.